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College site garden and rat-runs - you have your say


Help police in anti-drugs fight

The crime-fighting charity Crimestoppers is asking the public to help police rid communities of drugs by passing on information about drug related crime as part the current National Tackling Drugs Week Around 50 per cent of information that is passed to Crimestoppers every year is about drugs offences so the public are clearly concerned about having drugs in their communities.

Drug related crime can impact on communities by creating more drug addicts and further fuel additional crimes, which can bring associated dangers to communities. Help us stamp drug crime out in your area by contacting us with information.

Nationally, between April 2008 and March 2009: l More than 50 per cent of those arrested and charged were made with the help of Crimestoppers information were for drug related offences (3,666) l More than £19 million worth of drugs has been seized with the help of Crimestoppers information l Crimestoppers received almost 38,000 pieces of actionable information about suspected drugs offences.

Crimestoppers is asking for members of the public to pass on any information they may have on drug related crimes by telephoning 0800 555111, or via an online form on crimestoppers-uk.org. Both routes are anonymous — names are not taken, calls are not traced or recorded and people do not have to go to court.

Michael Laurie

Crimestoppers' Chief Executive

Convert site into garden

When the college in Cavendish Street is demolished, the space thus created should not be built upon but converted into a garden with plants, shrubs and seating, and green lawns.

Such a garden would perfectly complement the town hall square just across the road and make the centre of Keighley more attractive.

Alec Aspinall,

Westview Way, Keighley

Rat-runs will follow right-turn bans

I simply do not understand the obsession with “obstructive right hand turns”. Could you not also claim that all the buses which turn right exiting from the bus station, plus traffic turning right from Cavendish Street on to East Parade, are also obstructive? I have yet to see any positive evidence that the ban for traffic turning right from West Lane on to Oakworth Road, along with the ban for traffic turning right from Cavendish Street on to Lawkholme Lane has been monitored and proved that these changes have increased traffic flow — where is the evidence?

Sorry but if banned from turning right at the junction of North Street on to Cavendish Street all this will do is increase the “rat-runs” — including Sureness Road, Scott Street, etc, U-turns by the current Picture House, going part way up Spring Gardens Lane to turn around to exit right to then turn left on to Cavendish Street — of course this right hand turn could also be banned? I have rarely used Parkwood Street but judging by the traffic one day last week this has been a horrible rat-run for residents for years and I do not see anything which would not increase car traffic on other potential rat-runs in many other residential areas.

This piecemeal approach seems inappropriate at the moment since nobody knows how traffic might change once Asda opens, along with the new college site, plus a whole new set of lights by the B&Q roundabout, and just who exactly decided these were needed and are these lights to operate 24 hours or part-time/peak periods, only?

For the present this seems very much like trying to re-arrange the deckchairs on the Titanic.

B E Varley

Mount View, Oakworth

Shame of Royal Mail

With reference to Bryan Harford’s letter, who has been experiencing problems with the postal service. I would like to reply to the question he asked “Has anyone else had problems?”

I posted greetings cards to my relatives which have gone missing recently. But the most annoying was when I posted a signed copy of a book, Valleys of Death, by Paul Langan, highlighting murders in and around Keighley, to my sister.

She received the package, minus the book. The package had been neatly cut open.

The Royal Mail reimbursed her with, wait for it, six first class stamps and refused to take any responsibility at all and left it to me to purchase another copy which could not be signed.

In my view they are condoning theft and we the public have to “put up with it” with no redress — disgusting.

Royal Mail should be ashamed.

J D Holmes

Ridgacre Road, Quinton, Birmingham

Wealth of information

Mr Dewhirst’s Memory Lane piece of June 4, relating to the Keighley Exhibition of 1949, led me to recall that I still have one of the original 36-page booklets describing this exhibition.

Interestingly, on the back is a breakdown of employment statistics of the time showing a total of 29,222 men, women, girls and boys in employment, while inside is a wealth of useful information (did you know that Vernier, manufacturers of precision measuring instruments, was a Keighley company?).

Keith Sunderland

Exley Avenue, Keighley


Your Say YourKeighley

intercepttheprecept, Keighley says...
6:06pm Sat 13 Jun 09

Cllr Phillip has stated that he has set aside £30k from last years budget for the next town council election.

If there was an under spend of so much, why did we have to endure a double digit hike to the precept increase for 2008/09.

Cllr Phillip's budget is calculated on a 1% precept increase generating £3,000.00. On this basis, we have all been over charged by at least 10% on the precept increase.

How shameful, if he can get his sums wrong on such a scale he should resign, or at least treat himself to a decent calculator!

wizard52, keighley says...
12:32am Sun 14 Jun 09


Don’t just blame Cllr Phillips. Look carefully at all the committees, sub committees, joint committees, events committees, etc all paddling expensive canoes up the river of financial self-esteem.
Please don’t encourage Cllr Phillips to buy even more equipment, because only the best is good enough for this crowd of money spenders.
The same Chair persons, each year, so you’ll not get any change (pun) until the entire lot of Chair people are replaced with people with some skill or even brains and that’s not going to happen until the sun crashes into the Earth or the folks in charge realises we the ratepayers need them to go, now. Bring back the gang of four, five six seven or is it ten and counting.

intercepttheprecept, Keighley says...
5:59pm Sun 14 Jun 09

It is true that an "inner circle" is controlling Keighley Town Council and ordinary "back-benchers" are constrained from speaking out because of the inner circle's manipulation of standing orders.

Perhaps what is needed is the Town Council to go political so that a credible opposition can scrutinise those in control of the purse strings?

wizard52, keighley says...
10:48pm Sun 14 Jun 09

I don’t know who ‘intercepttheprece
pt. Keighley’ is, but he or she has confirmed my information that I received that an ‘inner circle’ is controlling Keighley Town Council by the manipulation of ‘standing orders’.
It would seem that Bradford City Council is aware of the problem but are terrified to do anything as the ruling junta will cause more problems for the ‘gang of four and more’ who are trying to salvage what remains of the credibility of Keighley Town Council.
Yes lets have a political opposition, with proper controls and lets see how it works, It can’t be any the worst than we’ve got now. Come on Hudson, Samuels Beale and the rest of you merry men of Keighley start the ball rolling or have the bully boys beaten you.

David McKay, Keighley says...
8:07am Mon 15 Jun 09

To Wizard 52 and intercepttheprecept, there is a convention that parish councils, and let us not misunderstand, Keighley Town Council has only the powers of a parish council, should always remain non-political.

However, it is well known that a small minority run the town council to the exclusion of all other members. It is correct that individual town councillors are forbidden via standing orders to express their views.

This is clearly undemocratic and is a repression of the right of elected officials to express concerns when their have opposing views.

I cannot condone the politicisation of the twon council, to do so would only confirm to the paranoid few at the top of the town council, that I may be leading a political plot to undermine the town council's current structure.

However, if a few were to stand for election under the banner of a political party, I may find myself persuaded to support them.

Kevin Costner, Crossroads says...
10:46am Mon 15 Jun 09

David McKay wrote:
To Wizard 52 and intercepttheprecept, there is a convention that parish councils, and let us not misunderstand, Keighley Town Council has only the powers of a parish council, should always remain non-political. However, it is well known that a small minority run the town council to the exclusion of all other members. It is correct that individual town councillors are forbidden via standing orders to express their views. This is clearly undemocratic and is a repression of the right of elected officials to express concerns when their have opposing views. I cannot condone the politicisation of the twon council, to do so would only confirm to the paranoid few at the top of the town council, that I may be leading a political plot to undermine the town council's current structure. However, if a few were to stand for election under the banner of a political party, I may find myself persuaded to support them.
Second to last paragraph " That I may be leading a political plot" So your a town councillor yourself then are you?

wizard52, keighley says...
11:28am Mon 15 Jun 09

To Kevin Costner Crossroads: I do not see Mr McKay on the list of Councillors on the badly designed Keighley Town Council web page. However anybody who can rid this town of the clique of money spending robe dressing fools that has made Keighley a laughing stock will do for me. I’ve heard a whisper that Keighley now wants to buy six flags and poles to stick in the Town Hall square at a cost of nearly £6000. That after nearly paying a Public Relations man £65 an hours just to spin the news for the top dogs in power. Bring in on McKay; I’d stand with you at the next election with any political party, preferably in the ward of the bosses.

David McKay, Keighley says...
11:53am Mon 15 Jun 09

Wizard52 feel free to contact me at david.communicity@go
oglemail.com

Lionel, keighley says...
1:42pm Mon 15 Jun 09

To all those that like to criticise the town council I would ask the following:

Our council would welcome candidates to stand at the next election. Our quality status depends on over 80% of seats being contested at each election.

I look forward to seeing all your names on the ballot papers.


Kevin Costner, Crossroads says...
3:59pm Mon 15 Jun 09

wizard52 wrote:
To Kevin Costner Crossroads: I do not see Mr McKay on the list of Councillors on the badly designed Keighley Town Council web page. However anybody who can rid this town of the clique of money spending robe dressing fools that has made Keighley a laughing stock will do for me. I’ve heard a whisper that Keighley now wants to buy six flags and poles to stick in the Town Hall square at a cost of nearly £6000. That after nearly paying a Public Relations man £65 an hours just to spin the news for the top dogs in power. Bring in on McKay; I’d stand with you at the next election with any political party, preferably in the ward of the bosses.
But how can he lead a political plot from the outside? I'm curious thats all. Hey up Lionel Rich-teas on board now, stand by your beds.

Lionel, keighley says...
4:16pm Mon 15 Jun 09

Kevin Costner wrote:
wizard52 wrote: To Kevin Costner Crossroads: I do not see Mr McKay on the list of Councillors on the badly designed Keighley Town Council web page. However anybody who can rid this town of the clique of money spending robe dressing fools that has made Keighley a laughing stock will do for me. I’ve heard a whisper that Keighley now wants to buy six flags and poles to stick in the Town Hall square at a cost of nearly £6000. That after nearly paying a Public Relations man £65 an hours just to spin the news for the top dogs in power. Bring in on McKay; I’d stand with you at the next election with any political party, preferably in the ward of the bosses.
But how can he lead a political plot from the outside? I'm curious thats all. Hey up Lionel Rich-teas on board now, stand by your beds.
Glad to see you have got a good sense of humour wizard52,if you would like to get in touch i would be very happy to accomodate you and help you in anyway i can:- lionel.lockley@hotma
il.co.uk

David McKay, Keighley says...
5:03pm Mon 15 Jun 09

£6k for flags and poles in the town hall square?

What a waste, still they now have part responsibility for it so a gesture is needed so they can think they are making a difference.

What a shame so many more important things could be done with £6k that the town really needs.

If this carries on politicising the town council will become a second best option in favour of dis-bandment.


wizard52, keighley says...
5:31pm Mon 15 Jun 09

No rudeness intended Mr Lockley, but from the same Keighley Website it states that you are also a Keighley Town Councillor. Except for the famous four and more, I don’t know as yet if you can be trusted and are tarred with the same brush as the bosses at Keighley.
I shall get in touch with you after I have made some hush hush enquires from true friends in Keighley and Bradford. I’m aware of the sack full of hate mail from your fellows in the Keighley Town Hall delivered to those who disaprove of the waste that your mates spent and I have enough rubbish from Virgin and all the spam that spews out onto my computer. I talk to Cllr Samuels, and I sometimes work with Cllr Hudson at the Gala. Both seem to be honest and above board. The rest of your mates In Council I don’t trust or respect and steer of.

David McKay, Keighley says...
8:19pm Mon 15 Jun 09

I did ask David Samuels to stand as town mayor - just to have a little less avarice at the top

david Samuels, Keighley says...
10:50pm Mon 15 Jun 09

To David McKay: Sir, there is no way that I would stand as Mayor for Keighley as the Mayor has no power. The power for change is at present in the hands of the few who have forced through the standing orders that have negated the freedom of Councillors.
It needs a clear out, in my opinion, of the people who refuse to listen, or even question other Councillors privately, as for instance, why I and a few others refuse to participate in the committee structures. As far as I’m concerned I still see and act for more of my constituents than I believe others Councillors may possibly do on their own Wards. It’s a question that is never asked, so no proper answer is available. Obviously there are Councillors on the many committees who take the task of Councillor diligently and act in as professional a way as possible.
One is not allowed a debate of more than one question, even though the answer given is totally unsatisfactory.
Believe it or not it is my view that the finance committee needs to take a more commanding place in the council. It needs oversight of budgets and the reason for a committee’s existence. I could go on all day about the changes needed, but nobody will listen if it impinges on their power base.
The list of standing orders that need either abolishing or radically altering to bring democracy to our 21st Century Council body is immense, and protracted. Those who I see as 18th century ‘luddites’ would rather the Council was closed, in my view, than lose power and prestige. Very few will debate in Chambers and leave the anger in the Chambers. Everything becomes personal and extremely bitter, especially when one fails to get a satisfactory answer to any question that truthfully needs an answer.
To Wizard 52, and all the other writers who have joined this discussion may I respectfully suggest that you put up as Councillors as soon as possible and help the may good Councillors in the KTC to bring about change.
I write the above in my personal capacity as a Keighley ratepayer, not as a Councillor, because it is not Council policy to discuss Council matters without permission.

David Samuels

Lionel, keighley says...
9:15am Tue 16 Jun 09

No rudeness intended Mr Lockley, but from the same Keighley Website it states that you are also a Keighley Town Councillor. Except for the famous four and more, I don’t know as yet if you can be trusted and are tarred with the same brush as the bosses at Keighley.

Wizard 52, what can I say,I am saddened and disheartened that you feel you cannot trust me and I feel that you should have made your enquiries before you left a message on the web. At least one thing about me is what you see is what you get, I don't believe in ****, if you want a straight answer you'll get it from me, when you have made your enquiries about me let me know.

intercepttheprecept, Keighley says...
9:19am Tue 16 Jun 09

Guys, guys,

Stop the recriminations and suspicions amongst yourselves. That will not help remove anyone from the council.

Instead, get together and get a campaign moving to achieve your aims.

Keep the precept and expenditure plans realistic and you have my support!

intercept_the_precep
t@yahoo.co.uk

Kevin Costner, Crossroads says...
10:30am Tue 16 Jun 09

Mr Samuels. Don't worry about the small minded higher than thou individuals within the town council, let them pretend to be important and believe that they hold the golden key to Keighley's future. In reality the electorate know they are just eccentric wannabe politicians who probably lacked a couple of toys each as children. It is probably true that the majority of people who read or hear about the town council think nothing or very little of its benefit to the Keighley people, although I know there are a few who do try very hard for the people. Life has a way of dealing with timewasters and superficial characters, you watch them fade away in the future.
Three cheers for "The Real Keighley Champions"

david Samuels, Keighley says...
11:31am Tue 16 Jun 09

‘I’ve had to go to bed and lie down.’ (That’s a line from an opponent when I offered to break bread with him and discuss how we could heal the rift in KTC. Obviously his street cred wouldn’t allow him to be seen with the likes of me.) However I’m overwhelmed with the nice words from people I really don’t know. For the first time in many a year, real honest people like me!
One good thing has come out of Keighley Town Council, ‘Charlie Putzz’ on my website, www.david-samuels.co
m a character formed over fifteen years ago and based on myself and those many other people I’ve met throughout my life.
In my seventy fifth year I have no wish for public office whatsoever, and especially under the setup that pertains today.
Cllr Lionel Lockley, a fellow councillor, with whom I’ve had many fierce shouting matches, is a good man, reliable, etc. In fact I’ve left him a Flying Jacket in my will.
David Samuels

mr. richard head, keighley says...
3:06pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Oh dear, Cllr Graham Mitchell has been ridiculed just because he tries to be an amateur traffic engineer on Keighley Town Council. He’s not doing any harm, as nobody listens to him because of his amateur status. He was once a film extra on a film, The Railway Children, and nobody took any notice of him then. Leave him alone, he is part and bluster of Keighley’s grand past history. He’ll soon retire to the lure of the Keighley Town Council’s Sensory Gardens in Dock Royd, Oakworth where he can entertain more schemes for improving Protocol, Standing Orders, traffic control, Civic Pride and amateur bus driving for the community. Graham, as an ex teacher, I think you should send Mr Speller to the corner of the classroom for his impertinence. More of the same I say Graham, Oakworth and Keighley needs people like you, let’s have laughter!

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