Remembrance day thanks to fireworks - your views

Thanks for great work

with poppy appealOn behalf of the Keighley branch of the Royal British Legion, I cannot thank enough everyone who helped in any way with our poppy appeal.

All the cadets and volunteers who were out selling poppies over the fortnight did a magnificent job and at Sunday’s parade helping our less mobile members lay wreaths.

They then went on to serve the meals in the Drill Hall.

Keighley should be proud that the young and older people do get on and work together.

The turnout at Sunday’s parade was really wonderful.

The team which managed the shop did a superb job helping our poppy appeal organiser Gordon Shaw.

It is an honour for me to work with such dedicated people.

Albert Joyner did a magnificent job selling in the centre with his various helpers.

Although it is early days, we feel we have equalled or even beaten the amount the appeal raised last year.

BRIAN HUDSON

Chairman, Keighley Royal British Legion

Why was the flag not flying on town hall?

This morning, along with many others, I attended the two minutes silence in Town Hall Square, Keighley.

There was not a Union Flag flying on the Town Hall, in spite of a ruling some years ago that the Union Flag would fly permanently on all town halls in the Bradford district.

There were no flags on the shopping centre or on the three flagpoles on the Yorkshire Bank building.

Keighley Town Council did fly its flags in the Town Hall Square.

Perhaps this might be remedied in time for The Queen’s Diamond Jubilee next June.

Desmond Jackson

Thwaites Brow, Keighley

Rules clear but drivers still try to avoid paying

Further to the recent letter regarding the Changegate Car Park, in Haworth, once again we have another example of the truth being adjusted.

The writer did not give any indication of when this incident took place or what vehicle he was in. I have, however, checked the last three weeks and firstly there is not one case where the vehicle is just on or over the line. All three vehicles are well into another bay.

As to the bully-boy tactic, that is a load of rubbish and Carstoppers are prepared to let the Keighley News see recordings for the last three months. Yes, everything on the car park involving wheel clamping is fully recorded, both in sound and vision, and there is not ONE example of bully-boy tactics.

There are plenty of examples of the public acting somewhat aggrieved and aggressive and I can understand that.

Not only that but the car is photographed from eight different positions and again there is not one example of a vehicle being a little over the line.

For the man to state that there are no warning signs, the one at the entrance is five feet by four, or thereabouts, and if he cannot see that he should not be driving. When he bought his ticket he must have read the warnings but chose to ignore them. The rules are very simple but people still try and avoid paying.

E R Evans

Changegate Car Park, Haworth

Tips on how to stop car being clamped

After yet again reading another “Letter of the week” that is slating the Haworth car park which is owned by Mr Ted Evans, I would just like to offer some tips on how to avoid getting fined or clamped.

I park in the car park on average two or three times a week and have done so for the past five years or so and have never yet been clamped, want to know why? Because every time I park there I always make sure I park my car within the bays and I always make sure I buy a ticket (and display it) that is sufficient for the time I require there. It must be just me who feels absolute frustration and anger when visiting small tourist towns with limited parking to find that some moron has not bothered to take the time to correctly park his car in just one space and would rather just dump it across two bays without a thought for anyone else.

On each occasion I visit this car park, I have my three children and my partner, who has the disability of being partially sighted, so as you can imagine, things tend to take longer to do than they do for most able-bodied families, so I’m afraid I have no sympathy for anyone who was “only five minutes late”.

If you take a look around the country at what most tourist spots are charging to park, you will find Mr Evans’s hourly charges are more than fair, so if you think that either your activities or your disability may cause you to take longer than you think, then do as I do, pay a little more for a longer stay.

Martin Holmes

Ingrow, Keighley

Sorrow and congratulations over fireworks

I am sorry if the person who contacted the Keighley News over the firework display was upset at the proximity to a grave of a firework being set off.

This event has brought people from the community together with members of St John’s for a number of years now and has given lots of pleasure.

Surely, giving children the opportunity to attend an organised display in a peaceful way is to be applauded.

The members are always mindful of the place it is held and try to cause the minimum interference to the graves around.

The bonfire, fireworks and refreshments were at a very reasonable cost and many showed their appreciation of this.

I for one congratulate them on their efforts.

They worked tirelessly on the day from morning to night and gave pleasure to around 250 people.

As a closing remark, I, unlike the person who contacted the Keighley News, am prepared to put my name to this letter.

D Miller

Keighley

Why complain to newspaper?

I am sorry the complainant felt so strongly that graves were being disrespected at the bonfire event in the churchyard, feeling as they did, why didn’t they complain on the night instead of anonymously to the Keighley News.

As Mr Kirke stated, we try to reach out to the people living in the neighbourhood and indeed the parish as a whole, we hold various events during the year for everyone, young or old, to enjoy.

We have held a bonfire in the churchyard for the last four years and this is the first complaint we have had.

May I suggest the horrified anonymous visitor makes a few more visits to St John’s churchyard and sees the disrespect shown to the graves on a daily basis, many people use the churchyard as a shortcut or to walk their dogs, some of them use the churchyard as a rubbish dump, litter, graffiti, beer cans and bottles smashed and thrown about, dog fouling, this is what I consider to be disgraceful and disrespectful.

The vicar setting fireworks off on a piece of broken stone is not in my opinion.

Audrey Waite

Broomhill Avenue, Keighley

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12:12pm Thu 17 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

I'm with Ted - if you don't want clamping don't break the rules, "I only broke the rules a little bit" isn't really an excuse.
I'm with Ted - if you don't want clamping don't break the rules, "I only broke the rules a little bit" isn't really an excuse. Little Green Man
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11:57am Fri 18 Nov 11

r.beale says...

On the occasions that I travel to Haworth I am chauffeur Driven, Keighley & district take me in comfort in a nice Blue & Green bus.

By the way L.G.M. are you off back to Mars for Christmas ? Do they clamp spaceships there if parked too long or incorrectly ? We should have a beer before you go, I did ask you last year.
On the occasions that I travel to Haworth I am chauffeur Driven, Keighley & district take me in comfort in a nice Blue & Green bus. By the way L.G.M. are you off back to Mars for Christmas ? Do they clamp spaceships there if parked too long or incorrectly ? We should have a beer before you go, I did ask you last year. r.beale
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12:19pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

I'm on Mars at the moment Ron, I told you I wasn't in town. I may be in Keighley at Christmas visiting the folks, but in the light of recent events maybe a pint sooner than that might be appropriate?
I'm on Mars at the moment Ron, I told you I wasn't in town. I may be in Keighley at Christmas visiting the folks, but in the light of recent events maybe a pint sooner than that might be appropriate? Little Green Man
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2:42pm Fri 18 Nov 11

r.beale says...

L.G.M .I Know we are suppose to stick with the appropriate comments, but a pint & a natter would be nice.
L.G.M .I Know we are suppose to stick with the appropriate comments, but a pint & a natter would be nice. r.beale
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2:54pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Keighley Watch says...

AIN'T IT THE TRUTH!!?


Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6am.
While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA )
was perking, he shaved with his
electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG ).
He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA ), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE ) and tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA )
After cooking his breakfast in his new
electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA ) he sat down with his calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO ) to see how much he could spend today. After setting his
watch (MADE IN TAIWAN ) to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA ) he got in his car
(MADE IN GERMANY ) filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia ) and continued his search for a good paying job. At the end of yet another discouraging
and fruitless day checking his Computer (Made In Malaysia ), Joe decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL ) poured himself a glass of
wine (MADE IN FRANCE ) and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA ),
and then wondered why he can't find
a good paying job in the UK .

Y'all gotta Keep this one circulating.
AIN'T IT THE TRUTH!!? Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6am. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA ) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG ). He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA ), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE ) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA ) After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA ) he sat down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO ) to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN ) to the radio (MADE IN INDIA ) he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY ) filled it with GAS (from Saudi Arabia ) and continued his search for a good paying job. At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his Computer (Made In Malaysia ), Joe decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL ) poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE ) and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA ), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in the UK . Y'all gotta Keep this one circulating. Keighley Watch
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4:30pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Well I usually pay the Boltmakers a visit when I'm in town Ron, probably won't have time at Christmas, maybe in the new year...
Well I usually pay the Boltmakers a visit when I'm in town Ron, probably won't have time at Christmas, maybe in the new year... Little Green Man
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7:06am Sat 19 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Quiet this week isn't it? Has everyone had their phone lines cut?
Quiet this week isn't it? Has everyone had their phone lines cut? Little Green Man
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3:01pm Sat 19 Nov 11

punnybarsteward says...

haha dont give DS ideas we might get another 'non-news' article where he lets his mind run away with itself.
haha dont give DS ideas we might get another 'non-news' article where he lets his mind run away with itself. punnybarsteward
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10:08pm Sat 19 Nov 11

samuels david says...

My thanks Little Green Man to the person who obviously has a problem and as a result unsuccessfully tried to silence the truth, as it's resulted in a wave of phone calls and letters, including Keighley Councillors supporting my small effort in trying to bring integrity and honour back into the limelight.

One sentence which I post especially for you Little Green Man, your aliases and friends, all people who seem to believe a lie can be buried forever.

The sentance is from a gentleman in East Morton.

‘Life is not about what happens to you but is about what you do with what happens to you!’

I think that has said it all!


David Samuels

(not anonymous or even frightened of the bullies who attack me during the night!)
My thanks Little Green Man to the person who obviously has a problem and as a result unsuccessfully tried to silence the truth, as it's resulted in a wave of phone calls and letters, including Keighley Councillors supporting my small effort in trying to bring integrity and honour back into the limelight. One sentence which I post especially for you Little Green Man, your aliases and friends, all people who seem to believe a lie can be buried forever. The sentance is from a gentleman in East Morton. ‘Life is not about what happens to you but is about what you do with what happens to you!’ I think that has said it all! David Samuels (not anonymous or even frightened of the bullies who attack me during the night!) samuels david
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10:12pm Sat 19 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Ps LGM:

You are all mentioned in my Christmas Calendar (All proceeds to the P.A.C.K Charity 12 Russel Street. Keighley. Thank you!

David Samuels
Ps LGM: You are all mentioned in my Christmas Calendar (All proceeds to the P.A.C.K Charity 12 Russel Street. Keighley. Thank you! David Samuels samuels david
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10:37pm Sat 19 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

As usual, like everyone else, no idea what you are on about Dave.
As usual, like everyone else, no idea what you are on about Dave. Little Green Man
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10:39pm Sat 19 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

PS any progress on proving those allegations yet? You might have conveniently forgotten but I haven't...
PS any progress on proving those allegations yet? You might have conveniently forgotten but I haven't... Little Green Man
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11:57pm Sat 19 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Little Green Man: You just can't leave out your snide remarks.7:06am Sat and 10:37pm Sat.

What a pity, were you brought up with such an attitude?

However you will be pleased to note the behaviour of you and your friends has been noted, sanitized,and has so far raised £39 for P.A.C.K Charity. 12 Russel Street. Keighley and raised laughs as well.

Go on LGM, be nice for a change, spend £1.95 and help a charity!

With your help we can get up to £100 before Christmas: Thank you!

David Samuels
Little Green Man: You just can't leave out your snide remarks.7:06am Sat and 10:37pm Sat. What a pity, were you brought up with such an attitude? However you will be pleased to note the behaviour of you and your friends has been noted, sanitized,and has so far raised £39 for P.A.C.K Charity. 12 Russel Street. Keighley and raised laughs as well. Go on LGM, be nice for a change, spend £1.95 and help a charity! With your help we can get up to £100 before Christmas: Thank you! David Samuels samuels david
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9:30am Sun 20 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Dave, for the hundredth time mate, i'm not a councillor, I have no connection at all with any other posters on here, I had nothing to do with cutting your phone line and I have no wish to silence you, you're funny, I like that! If you have 'truths' to reveal go ahead, I really don't care but you need to make sure it is the truth Dave.
Dave, for the hundredth time mate, i'm not a councillor, I have no connection at all with any other posters on here, I had nothing to do with cutting your phone line and I have no wish to silence you, you're funny, I like that! If you have 'truths' to reveal go ahead, I really don't care but you need to make sure it is the truth Dave. Little Green Man
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10:11am Sun 20 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Little Green Man are you suggesting that our blogs to each other should be of an enlightened nature?

Would that mean you would not object if I were to continue informing the Keighley public of the, legal, but in my view, morally corrupt misuse of ratepayers money on such things as presents for other town Councils, exorbitant ‘training courses’ and traveling expences, all of which, so far have only been of benefit to some KT councilors and staff, but has not been proved to be of benefit whatsoever to Keighley constituents?

Would you allow me and other Councillors who are concerned at the high staff salaries, while local charities feeding the old, the poor and the sick plead for help all the time?

Would you allow me to condem the situation where a convicted fellon be allowed to continue as a KTCouncillor, thus again in my view, bringing the Council, the town the people into disrespect?

LGM would you allow me to critizise those who try to censor free speech while an ever increasing number of citizens, including KT councillors are desperartely trying to cleanse and exorszise the social climbers the egomaniacs, and the control freaks on expences out of office?

If so then may I sincerly offer to you my hand in friendship as would the majoity of likeminded people in this town!

David Samuels
Little Green Man are you suggesting that our blogs to each other should be of an enlightened nature? Would that mean you would not object if I were to continue informing the Keighley public of the, legal, but in my view, morally corrupt misuse of ratepayers money on such things as presents for other town Councils, exorbitant ‘training courses’ and traveling expences, all of which, so far have only been of benefit to some KT councilors and staff, but has not been proved to be of benefit whatsoever to Keighley constituents? Would you allow me and other Councillors who are concerned at the high staff salaries, while local charities feeding the old, the poor and the sick plead for help all the time? Would you allow me to condem the situation where a convicted fellon be allowed to continue as a KTCouncillor, thus again in my view, bringing the Council, the town the people into disrespect? LGM would you allow me to critizise those who try to censor free speech while an ever increasing number of citizens, including KT councillors are desperartely trying to cleanse and exorszise the social climbers the egomaniacs, and the control freaks on expences out of office? If so then may I sincerly offer to you my hand in friendship as would the majoity of likeminded people in this town! David Samuels samuels david
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10:18am Sun 20 Nov 11

r.beale says...

It was sad to see that the union flag was absent on some prominent buildings in the Town, and even more remarkable, no picture in the K.N. of The Mayor laying his wreath.
I laid a wreath at Riddlesden Reform Church, they made me so welcome, it was one of the proudest moments of my life.
It was sad to see that the union flag was absent on some prominent buildings in the Town, and even more remarkable, no picture in the K.N. of The Mayor laying his wreath. I laid a wreath at Riddlesden Reform Church, they made me so welcome, it was one of the proudest moments of my life. r.beale
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10:19am Sun 20 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Ps LGM.

Truth is a legal concept which KTC are well aware of. If what I say is in any way a lie, the egomanics would have had the police up to my house, the lawyers sending expensive letters and in my view,
the thugs ....................
...... well let's say no more!

David Samuels
Ps LGM. Truth is a legal concept which KTC are well aware of. If what I say is in any way a lie, the egomanics would have had the police up to my house, the lawyers sending expensive letters and in my view, the thugs .................... ...... well let's say no more! David Samuels samuels david
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3:32pm Sun 20 Nov 11

jimmy k says...

mr samuels please read the editors opinion in the hard copy of the paper and take the hint.
as for the letters this week i think they speak for themselves, since when has "i only broke the rules a bit" been an excuse for anything,if i sped at 32mph and was caught i would still expect to pay the fine just the same as someone who was doing 39.
mr samuels please read the editors opinion in the hard copy of the paper and take the hint. as for the letters this week i think they speak for themselves, since when has "i only broke the rules a bit" been an excuse for anything,if i sped at 32mph and was caught i would still expect to pay the fine just the same as someone who was doing 39. jimmy k
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5:50pm Sun 20 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Dave, I've no problem with you making any point you want to, your intentions may be honorable and commendable, your approach leaves a lot to be desired, don't make accusations against me you can't substantiate and we'll get on just fine. I'm not the person you think I am, you'd probably be suprised!
Dave, I've no problem with you making any point you want to, your intentions may be honorable and commendable, your approach leaves a lot to be desired, don't make accusations against me you can't substantiate and we'll get on just fine. I'm not the person you think I am, you'd probably be suprised! Little Green Man
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6:07pm Sun 20 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Jimmy k,

I have read your blog, and with respect, I could only understand the first part of your posting.

You have noted that the editor of the Keighley News has an ‘Editors Opinion’ section.

As you will be aware the word ‘opinion’ does not mean, request, demand, order, or even diktat!

Opinion is a view, not binding, as you and your colleagues know only too well!

Your analogy of speeding and consequently the requirement to pay fines as stated above I did not understand.

Perhaps you could explain to me in a simplified manner what speeding and the subsequent differential fines have to do with the ongoing debate by me, a concerned ratepayer, and the increasing number of an angry Keighley public who since the physical attack on my freedom to speak now recognize the increasing lack of democracy in Keighley, coupled with the totally exorbitant spending policy of KTC.

Your posting does not indicate whether you agree or not with the dictatorial and wasteful ways of the KTC, and whether you are a Town Councillor, or a friend or indeed a family member of a town councillor, if you were then it would most certainly give an explanation to the public why you hold such views.


David Samuels
Jimmy k, I have read your blog, and with respect, I could only understand the first part of your posting. You have noted that the editor of the Keighley News has an ‘Editors Opinion’ section. As you will be aware the word ‘opinion’ does not mean, request, demand, order, or even diktat! Opinion is a view, not binding, as you and your colleagues know only too well! Your analogy of speeding and consequently the requirement to pay fines as stated above I did not understand. Perhaps you could explain to me in a simplified manner what speeding and the subsequent differential fines have to do with the ongoing debate by me, a concerned ratepayer, and the increasing number of an angry Keighley public who since the physical attack on my freedom to speak now recognize the increasing lack of democracy in Keighley, coupled with the totally exorbitant spending policy of KTC. Your posting does not indicate whether you agree or not with the dictatorial and wasteful ways of the KTC, and whether you are a Town Councillor, or a friend or indeed a family member of a town councillor, if you were then it would most certainly give an explanation to the public why you hold such views. David Samuels samuels david
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6:13pm Sun 20 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Here we go again! What's Jimmys post got to do with the council Dave? Nothing as far as I can see, talk about making up a story!
Here we go again! What's Jimmys post got to do with the council Dave? Nothing as far as I can see, talk about making up a story! Little Green Man
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7:10pm Sun 20 Nov 11

jimmy k says...

mr samuels i don't know what my workmates have got to do with anything,my comments about speeding are in response to the ongoing letters about ted evans car park because and this may have passed you by this thread (not blog)concerns letters that are published in the keighley news.
mr samuels i don't know what my workmates have got to do with anything,my comments about speeding are in response to the ongoing letters about ted evans car park because and this may have passed you by this thread (not blog)concerns letters that are published in the keighley news. jimmy k
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7:53pm Sun 20 Nov 11

samuels david says...

LGM and Jimmy K:
Get a life of worth and stop making snide remarks.

You have noted that the editor of the Keighley News has an ‘Editors Opinion’ section.

Jimmy K You read all of the 'Editors Opinion' So why then was my named mentioned?

'mr samuels please read the editors opinion in the hard copy of the paper and take the hint.' Jimmy K

David Samuels
LGM and Jimmy K: Get a life of worth and stop making snide remarks. You have noted that the editor of the Keighley News has an ‘Editors Opinion’ section. Jimmy K You read all of the 'Editors Opinion' So why then was my named mentioned? 'mr samuels please read the editors opinion in the hard copy of the paper and take the hint.' Jimmy K David Samuels samuels david
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7:56pm Sun 20 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Ps Jimmy K and LGM: How foolish you are!

I suggest you grow up and stop being children!

David Samuels
Ps Jimmy K and LGM: How foolish you are! I suggest you grow up and stop being children! David Samuels samuels david
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8:31pm Sun 20 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Well Dave you managed one sensible post this week which is I suppose something to be thankful for, pity you didn't (as usual) listen to anyone but yourself - I asked what Jimmys post has to do with the council because you implied that it had something to do with the council, why do have to take everything the wrong way? I was trying to get to the bottom of your point!
Well Dave you managed one sensible post this week which is I suppose something to be thankful for, pity you didn't (as usual) listen to anyone but yourself - I asked what Jimmys post has to do with the council because you implied that it had something to do with the council, why do have to take everything the wrong way? I was trying to get to the bottom of your point! Little Green Man
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8:58pm Sun 20 Nov 11

jimmy k says...

without wishing to add fuel to the fire,which post was that lgm?it must have slipped past me.
without wishing to add fuel to the fire,which post was that lgm?it must have slipped past me. jimmy k
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10:28pm Sun 20 Nov 11

samuels david says...

LGM: When jimmy 7 make reference about me, ''mr samuels please read the editors opinion in the hard copy of the paper and take the hint.'

Believe it or not I then believe he is referring to me!

Let me explain something which is of importance to me.

At my age I have no interest in anything but free speech, democracy and the misuse, legally or otherwise of ratepayers money.

When people are dying, fighting for that concept throughout the world, I find it hard to take on board that others seemingly couldn’t give a dam about such a simple idea.

That my money as a ratepayer is wasted by egomaniacs dressed up in silly robes while fellow Keighley people are turning down gas fires because the Social Benefit Cheque hasn’t arrived I get angry, when........ oh what’s the use of explaining.
LGM: When jimmy 7 make reference about me, ''mr samuels please read the editors opinion in the hard copy of the paper and take the hint.' Believe it or not I then believe he is referring to me! Let me explain something which is of importance to me. At my age I have no interest in anything but free speech, democracy and the misuse, legally or otherwise of ratepayers money. When people are dying, fighting for that concept throughout the world, I find it hard to take on board that others seemingly couldn’t give a dam about such a simple idea. That my money as a ratepayer is wasted by egomaniacs dressed up in silly robes while fellow Keighley people are turning down gas fires because the Social Benefit Cheque hasn’t arrived I get angry, when........ oh what’s the use of explaining. samuels david
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11:20pm Sun 20 Nov 11

Stevo54 says...

I'm glad I don't live back home any more and I don't know why I read all this b*****s in the first place.
It makes me sick to read all the whining and moaning about trivial stuff and what or what might have happened.
I have a sixteen year old daughter who has been fighting cancer since she was eight, I can honestly say that during all the time she has been going through the endless hours of chemo treatments, radiation, antibody treatments and stem cell rescues she has never once whined about "why me".
It pees me off when I read stuff from dopes like Samuels crying because someone disagrees with his views or alledgedly interferes with his stupid phone line.
Get a life and shut the hell up.
I'm glad I don't live back home any more and I don't know why I read all this b*****s in the first place. It makes me sick to read all the whining and moaning about trivial stuff and what or what might have happened. I have a sixteen year old daughter who has been fighting cancer since she was eight, I can honestly say that during all the time she has been going through the endless hours of chemo treatments, radiation, antibody treatments and stem cell rescues she has never once whined about "why me". It pees me off when I read stuff from dopes like Samuels crying because someone disagrees with his views or alledgedly interferes with his stupid phone line. Get a life and shut the hell up. Stevo54
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8:54am Mon 21 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

It's easy to lose perspective Stevo, thanks for pointing that out, best wishes...
It's easy to lose perspective Stevo, thanks for pointing that out, best wishes... Little Green Man
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2:22pm Mon 21 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Stevo54

I have lost my mother, father My son I to Multiple Sclerosis, and that was because nobody cared.

So whilst I really do understand your concern regarding your daughter, I'm upset if you believe I may trivialize issues for my own ego.

I fight the corner not for myself but others less able to stand up for themselves.

I have to say that I believe your daughter is extremely fortunate she has you to be back her up,
unfortunately many people haven’t got you to help them!

David Samuels
Stevo54 I have lost my mother, father My son I to Multiple Sclerosis, and that was because nobody cared. So whilst I really do understand your concern regarding your daughter, I'm upset if you believe I may trivialize issues for my own ego. I fight the corner not for myself but others less able to stand up for themselves. I have to say that I believe your daughter is extremely fortunate she has you to be back her up, unfortunately many people haven’t got you to help them! David Samuels samuels david
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2:46pm Mon 21 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Stevo54

So upset was I at your personal attack at my integrity and commitment to others less fortunate than myself that I did not mention that both my wife’s parents, truly wonderful people, also passed away suffering from Cancer, and yes, you better believe it, I have in the past raised many thousands of pounds for Manorlands and other hospices within West Yorkshire and will continue to do so in spite of your gross remarks about me.

David Samuels
Stevo54 So upset was I at your personal attack at my integrity and commitment to others less fortunate than myself that I did not mention that both my wife’s parents, truly wonderful people, also passed away suffering from Cancer, and yes, you better believe it, I have in the past raised many thousands of pounds for Manorlands and other hospices within West Yorkshire and will continue to do so in spite of your gross remarks about me. David Samuels samuels david
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8:48pm Mon 21 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

I can't believe you actually said that Dave, have you ever once thought about anyones feelings but your own?
I can't believe you actually said that Dave, have you ever once thought about anyones feelings but your own? Little Green Man
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11:52pm Mon 21 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Little Green Man I will always tell the truth. Why does truth upset you? My feelings are genuine, and that's why I spend my time fighting nasty little people like you. You seem to talk a lot but seemingly do nothing for others.
Get off your high horse and help others who need help, more action less b..l s..t

Why not come with me and see what is being done this Christmas for children, the old and the sick? Dare you?

David Samuels

David Samuels


David Samuels
Little Green Man I will always tell the truth. Why does truth upset you? My feelings are genuine, and that's why I spend my time fighting nasty little people like you. You seem to talk a lot but seemingly do nothing for others. Get off your high horse and help others who need help, more action less b..l s..t Why not come with me and see what is being done this Christmas for children, the old and the sick? Dare you? David Samuels David Samuels David Samuels samuels david
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12:11am Tue 22 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Ps LGM: LGM you have insulted me for years, because of my stance regarding your friends at KTC.

However you still have not realised that I will defend myself against people like you.

Wherever the attack comes from I will defend myself.

The solution is to stop attacking me, so that I have no need to defend myself! Debate yes! Insult no!

David Samuels
Ps LGM: LGM you have insulted me for years, because of my stance regarding your friends at KTC. However you still have not realised that I will defend myself against people like you. Wherever the attack comes from I will defend myself. The solution is to stop attacking me, so that I have no need to defend myself! Debate yes! Insult no! David Samuels samuels david
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7:53am Tue 22 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Problem is dave if i sneezed you would consider it an attack, you remind me of the spitting image puppet of the rev ian paisley, anyone else noticed that?
Problem is dave if i sneezed you would consider it an attack, you remind me of the spitting image puppet of the rev ian paisley, anyone else noticed that? Little Green Man
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4:42pm Tue 22 Nov 11

jimmy k says...

samuels david wrote:
Stevo54 So upset was I at your personal attack at my integrity and commitment to others less fortunate than myself that I did not mention that both my wife’s parents, truly wonderful people, also passed away suffering from Cancer, and yes, you better believe it, I have in the past raised many thousands of pounds for Manorlands and other hospices within West Yorkshire and will continue to do so in spite of your gross remarks about me. David Samuels
stevo my heart goes out to you,it can not be easy even talking about such trauma and like lgm i say thanks for putting things in perspective.i hope this mans post hasn't upset you too much.I would report it as being highly offensive but I think it speaks volumes for the author.
[quote][p][bold]samuels david[/bold] wrote: Stevo54 So upset was I at your personal attack at my integrity and commitment to others less fortunate than myself that I did not mention that both my wife’s parents, truly wonderful people, also passed away suffering from Cancer, and yes, you better believe it, I have in the past raised many thousands of pounds for Manorlands and other hospices within West Yorkshire and will continue to do so in spite of your gross remarks about me. David Samuels[/p][/quote]stevo my heart goes out to you,it can not be easy even talking about such trauma and like lgm i say thanks for putting things in perspective.i hope this mans post hasn't upset you too much.I would report it as being highly offensive but I think it speaks volumes for the author. jimmy k
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7:05pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

Ho hum
Ho hum Shauny-Boy
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7:10pm Tue 22 Nov 11

samuels david says...

jimmy k:
Thank you. I suggest that everybody has a differing view on all subjects and issues and should not be silenced for any reason, otherwise there would be only one view in the whole world and thus no debate whatsoever on any subject and mankind would die intellectually.

Debate, discussion without malice or spite should be the manta of all.

However such a situation will never occur because of the general wish to verbally and in many cases physically hit out to those who dare to question a view or in some cases even look at a person.

Such is the violence, again both verbally and physically that our jails are overflowing with stressed out people.

The old adage of count to ten has in most cases disappeared, and I admit I’m just as guilty as the next person in not adhering to this wise old fashioned virtue when attacked for my views.

As I am always saying, have debate but without the violence, why not try?

David Samuels
jimmy k: Thank you. I suggest that everybody has a differing view on all subjects and issues and should not be silenced for any reason, otherwise there would be only one view in the whole world and thus no debate whatsoever on any subject and mankind would die intellectually. Debate, discussion without malice or spite should be the manta of all. However such a situation will never occur because of the general wish to verbally and in many cases physically hit out to those who dare to question a view or in some cases even look at a person. Such is the violence, again both verbally and physically that our jails are overflowing with stressed out people. The old adage of count to ten has in most cases disappeared, and I admit I’m just as guilty as the next person in not adhering to this wise old fashioned virtue when attacked for my views. As I am always saying, have debate but without the violence, why not try? David Samuels samuels david
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7:29pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

Will the members of KTC please raise a hand?
Will the members of KTC please raise a hand? Shauny-Boy
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7:41pm Tue 22 Nov 11

jimmy k says...

you just don't get do you?or worse you do and choose to ignore it.
you just don't get do you?or worse you do and choose to ignore it. jimmy k
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8:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

samuels david says...

Shauny-Boy: Asking KTC to raise a hand would only be for more spending of ratepayer’s money for the majority of the Councillors!

David Samuels
Shauny-Boy: Asking KTC to raise a hand would only be for more spending of ratepayer’s money for the majority of the Councillors! David Samuels samuels david
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8:31pm Tue 22 Nov 11

MarkPullen says...

I have to say that in recent days/weeks the comments have returned to the personal attacks between certain individuals.
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There is no longer any serious discussions and I see no opportunity for everyone to feel comfortable making a post.
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My worry is that even by writing this entry I will open myself up to criticism.
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Lights blue touchpaper and steps back...
I have to say that in recent days/weeks the comments have returned to the personal attacks between certain individuals. . There is no longer any serious discussions and I see no opportunity for everyone to feel comfortable making a post. . My worry is that even by writing this entry I will open myself up to criticism. . Lights blue touchpaper and steps back... MarkPullen
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8:49pm Tue 22 Nov 11

jimmy k says...

shauny-boy,i'm not nor have ever have been on the tc,nor do i know anyone who has.These threads are meant to be here to comment on stories and letters that appear in the kn.The last few weeks has seen someone take over for their own agenda,anyone who disagrees with him or even has the cheek to ignore him and comment on the actual stories is seen to be "the enemy"open game to be insulted.last week the editor in the hard copy of the paper tried to remind people to stick to the subject but that has fallen on deaf ears.no doubt this post will be followed by a lot of long clever worded rhetoric about conspiracies and self-pity and that is water off a ducks back to me,in fact i must admit i have sometimes laughed at the gentle mickey taking of lgm and thought of his target as a lovable buffoon.However this week the joke has turned nasty by him insulting the father of a cancer suffering girl and saying "even rag heads need to be heard" of course no apology will be forthcoming but it certainly leaves a nasty taste in the mouth and I for one will no longer talk with someone who holds such views.
shauny-boy,i'm not nor have ever have been on the tc,nor do i know anyone who has.These threads are meant to be here to comment on stories and letters that appear in the kn.The last few weeks has seen someone take over for their own agenda,anyone who disagrees with him or even has the cheek to ignore him and comment on the actual stories is seen to be "the enemy"open game to be insulted.last week the editor in the hard copy of the paper tried to remind people to stick to the subject but that has fallen on deaf ears.no doubt this post will be followed by a lot of long clever worded rhetoric about conspiracies and self-pity and that is water off a ducks back to me,in fact i must admit i have sometimes laughed at the gentle mickey taking of lgm and thought of his target as a lovable buffoon.However this week the joke has turned nasty by him insulting the father of a cancer suffering girl and saying "even rag heads need to be heard" of course no apology will be forthcoming but it certainly leaves a nasty taste in the mouth and I for one will no longer talk with someone who holds such views. jimmy k
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9:34pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

It ses to me, a newcomer to these pages, that David Samuels is being, dare I say it, bullied by the majority of the posters on here.
I don't know him personally, but I have read his letters in the Keighley News, and yes, he does have a lot to say about things, but does he really have to put up with all this vitriol?

Let's get back to serious topic debates, not personal attacks.

No more questions m' lud!
It ses to me, a newcomer to these pages, that David Samuels is being, dare I say it, bullied by the majority of the posters on here. I don't know him personally, but I have read his letters in the Keighley News, and yes, he does have a lot to say about things, but does he really have to put up with all this vitriol? Let's get back to serious topic debates, not personal attacks. No more questions m' lud! Shauny-Boy
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8:12am Wed 23 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Shaunyboy, vitriol? From me,? where? Not having a go, just curious! Mr P, welcome back, please bring some sensible debate with you, I'm bored with teasing Dave now ;)
Shaunyboy, vitriol? From me,? where? Not having a go, just curious! Mr P, welcome back, please bring some sensible debate with you, I'm bored with teasing Dave now ;) Little Green Man
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9:13pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

Little Green Man- maybe vitriol was the incorrect word, however, it did seem to be one of him against multiple others.

Anyway, I'm off to comment on the teacher who smacked his pupils in that mosque!
I wonder if I'm allowed to comment?
Little Green Man- maybe vitriol was the incorrect word, however, it did seem to be one of him against multiple others. Anyway, I'm off to comment on the teacher who smacked his pupils in that mosque! I wonder if I'm allowed to comment? Shauny-Boy
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9:15pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

I doubt it SB!
I doubt it SB! Little Green Man
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9:23pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

Quell surprise!

Why aren't we allowed to comment on 'local' news?
Quell surprise! Why aren't we allowed to comment on 'local' news? Shauny-Boy
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9:47pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

I know - I had a few points to make about the "Phantom Wire Cutter of Old Keighley Town" but that wasn't allowed either :)
I know - I had a few points to make about the "Phantom Wire Cutter of Old Keighley Town" but that wasn't allowed either :) Little Green Man
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9:51pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

I'm saying nowt!
I'm saying nowt! Shauny-Boy
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9:57pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

Very wise SB, very wise :)
Very wise SB, very wise :) Little Green Man
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10:01pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

So, answer me this LGM.
If, say, the English teacher at Holy Family or Oakbank started slapping and kicking a pupil then would all holy hell (pardon the pun) would break out?
I certainly think so !!!!
So, answer me this LGM. If, say, the English teacher at Holy Family or Oakbank started slapping and kicking a pupil then would all holy hell (pardon the pun) would break out? I certainly think so !!!! Shauny-Boy
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10:12pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Little Green Man says...

The guy was jailed for 10 weeks - probably is holy hell for him!
The guy was jailed for 10 weeks - probably is holy hell for him! Little Green Man
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1:41am Thu 24 Nov 11

Kingchaser says...

Shauny-Boy,

You are very obviously a newcomer to these pages as you state. And I bid you welcome.

You will not see much posting from me these days largely because for well over a year David Samuels has hijacked each discussion and turned it into a "look at me I'm being attacked" wolf-crying diatribe. When actually the person making the most utterly crass and offensiuve comments is himself and his attempts to discredit KTC. By all means he has a right to attempt to do that (now that he failed to get elected) but his methods are extremely questionable and, in my opinion he does his cause very great harm.

Watch and learn.

You may try politely disagreeing with him if you want a very quick lesson.

KC (anybody seen my wire-cutters?)
Shauny-Boy, You are very obviously a newcomer to these pages as you state. And I bid you welcome. You will not see much posting from me these days largely because for well over a year David Samuels has hijacked each discussion and turned it into a "look at me I'm being attacked" wolf-crying diatribe. When actually the person making the most utterly crass and offensiuve comments is himself and his attempts to discredit KTC. By all means he has a right to attempt to do that (now that he failed to get elected) but his methods are extremely questionable and, in my opinion he does his cause very great harm. Watch and learn. You may try politely disagreeing with him if you want a very quick lesson. KC (anybody seen my wire-cutters?) Kingchaser
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1:42am Thu 24 Nov 11

Kingchaser says...

Shauny-Boy,

You are very obviously a newcomer to these pages as you state. And I bid you welcome.

You will not see much posting from me these days largely because for well over a year David Samuels has hijacked each discussion and turned it into a "look at me I'm being attacked" wolf-crying diatribe. When actually the person making the most utterly crass and offensiuve comments is himself and his attempts to discredit KTC. By all means he has a right to attempt to do that (now that he failed to get elected) but his methods are extremely questionable and, in my opinion he does his cause very great harm.

Watch and learn.

You may try politely disagreeing with him if you want a very quick lesson.

KC (anybody seen my wire-cutters?)
Shauny-Boy, You are very obviously a newcomer to these pages as you state. And I bid you welcome. You will not see much posting from me these days largely because for well over a year David Samuels has hijacked each discussion and turned it into a "look at me I'm being attacked" wolf-crying diatribe. When actually the person making the most utterly crass and offensiuve comments is himself and his attempts to discredit KTC. By all means he has a right to attempt to do that (now that he failed to get elected) but his methods are extremely questionable and, in my opinion he does his cause very great harm. Watch and learn. You may try politely disagreeing with him if you want a very quick lesson. KC (anybody seen my wire-cutters?) Kingchaser
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2:27am Thu 24 Nov 11

Kingchaser says...

Shauny-Boy,

You are very obviously a newcomer to these pages as you state. And I bid you welcome.

You will not see much posting from me these days largely because for well over a year David Samuels has hijacked each discussion and turned it into a "look at me I'm being attacked" wolf-crying diatribe. When actually the person making the most utterly crass and offensiuve comments is himself and his attempts to discredit KTC. By all means he has a right to attempt to do that (now that he failed to get elected) but his methods are extremely questionable and, in my opinion he does his cause very great harm.

Watch and learn.

You may try politely disagreeing with him if you want a very quick lesson.

KC (anybody seen my wire-cutters?)
Shauny-Boy, You are very obviously a newcomer to these pages as you state. And I bid you welcome. You will not see much posting from me these days largely because for well over a year David Samuels has hijacked each discussion and turned it into a "look at me I'm being attacked" wolf-crying diatribe. When actually the person making the most utterly crass and offensiuve comments is himself and his attempts to discredit KTC. By all means he has a right to attempt to do that (now that he failed to get elected) but his methods are extremely questionable and, in my opinion he does his cause very great harm. Watch and learn. You may try politely disagreeing with him if you want a very quick lesson. KC (anybody seen my wire-cutters?) Kingchaser
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2:31am Thu 24 Nov 11

Kingchaser says...

Oh dear.

I seem to be repeating myself....repeating myself....repeating myself....

maybe I'm an ex-KTC member who's had his wire snipped...had his wire snipped....had his wire snipped....

Or maybe it's a glitch on the KN website.

I know which Comedy Dave will think it is!
Oh dear. I seem to be repeating myself....repeating myself....repeating myself.... maybe I'm an ex-KTC member who's had his wire snipped...had his wire snipped....had his wire snipped.... Or maybe it's a glitch on the KN website. I know which Comedy Dave will think it is! Kingchaser
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9:32am Thu 24 Nov 11

Shauny-Boy says...

Hmm...maybe I was mistaken about Mr Samuels. But I'll let it lie...for now!
Thanks for the welcome by the way!
Hmm...maybe I was mistaken about Mr Samuels. But I'll let it lie...for now! Thanks for the welcome by the way! Shauny-Boy
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