Dumped rubbish continues to blight North Street in Keighley

For Teas owner Janet Croden, outside her North Street cafe where she says rubbish is regularly dumped

For Teas owner Janet Croden, outside her North Street cafe where she says rubbish is regularly dumped

Rubbish left on the pavement in North Street last Wednesday (August 6)

Rubbish left on the pavement in North Street last Wednesday (August 6)

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A KEIGHLEY business owner says she and her neighbours continue to be blighted by rubbish being left near their properties.

Janet Croden, who runs wartime-themed cafe For Teas, in North Street, said all kinds of unwanted household items continue to be scattered on the pavement outside.

Her plight was featured in the Keighley News on July 31, but Mrs Croden said further lots of rubbish had been repeatedly left in the same location since then.

"I do understand that they're allowed to put rubbish out here to be collected on Wednesdays, but this is stuff that is meant to be tied up in bin bags, not strewn all over the pavement," she said.

"I've spoken to so many people about it, but it doesn't seem to be getting sorted out quickly enough."

A Bradford Council spokesman responded: "We're still trying to resolve this situation which has no easy solution. The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste.

"As a temporary solution, we've asked the tenants to put out their rubbish on a Wednesday and it is then collected by our cleansing teams.

"Occupiers have been sent warning letters to reinforce the temporary arrangements in place, and we will follow this up with formal action should the arrangements be ignored.

"We are still working hard to come up with a long-term solution and ask all those involved to be patient."

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8:31am Thu 14 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined. MarkPullen
  • Score: 12

3:37pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 3

3:52pm Thu 14 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
Are you 100% sure Ian?

I haven't read that information on the stories but might have missed it - I wouldn't want to make assumptions.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .[/p][/quote]Are you 100% sure Ian? I haven't read that information on the stories but might have missed it - I wouldn't want to make assumptions. MarkPullen
  • Score: 1

9:43pm Thu 14 Aug 14

jimmy k says...

mmm.racism is alive and well on these pages i see.
mmm.racism is alive and well on these pages i see. jimmy k
  • Score: -9

10:22pm Thu 14 Aug 14

abh59 says...

why does someone always try and make it something it isn't , it is nothing to do with the ethnicity of the offenders but the fact that fly tipping is occurring on a almost daily basis on the main thoroughfare through the town there has been a lot worse deposits than those shown in the report, perhaps bdmc or local tourist information office may like to use it in promotional material, after the millions of lottery funding money used for regeneration of the area "come to Keighley were the streets are lined with crap"
I have been campaigning against this atrocity for a while now on local facebook group pages to be met with apathy by most , only when I posted a picture of a tipping incident on a Saturday afternoon which wouldn't have been moved till Monday under the caption of "Keighley welcomes le tour" did people take any interest
why does someone always try and make it something it isn't , it is nothing to do with the ethnicity of the offenders but the fact that fly tipping is occurring on a almost daily basis on the main thoroughfare through the town there has been a lot worse deposits than those shown in the report, perhaps bdmc or local tourist information office may like to use it in promotional material, after the millions of lottery funding money used for regeneration of the area "come to Keighley were the streets are lined with crap" I have been campaigning against this atrocity for a while now on local facebook group pages to be met with apathy by most , only when I posted a picture of a tipping incident on a Saturday afternoon which wouldn't have been moved till Monday under the caption of "Keighley welcomes le tour" did people take any interest abh59
  • Score: 8

10:25pm Thu 14 Aug 14

FORTEAS says...

THIS IS NOT, I REPEAT..... IS NOT AN NATIONALITY ISSUE, nor is it any other sort of racist issue....... just BLATANT DUMPING OF ****...............
. CONTINUALY ?????????? would u want it .... NO YOU CHUFFING WOULDN'T, and nor do I, Had this for a year and a half now !!!!!!! do they get held to account ????????? NOOO I hear you all cry......... WHY NOT ?????? I don't know :(
THIS IS NOT, I REPEAT..... IS NOT AN NATIONALITY ISSUE, nor is it any other sort of racist issue....... just BLATANT DUMPING OF ****............... . CONTINUALY ?????????? would u want it .... NO YOU CHUFFING WOULDN'T, and nor do I, Had this for a year and a half now !!!!!!! do they get held to account ????????? NOOO I hear you all cry......... WHY NOT ?????? I don't know :( FORTEAS
  • Score: 14

10:39pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Cornishlady says...

This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous....... Cornishlady
  • Score: 14

10:56pm Thu 14 Aug 14

abh59 says...

As Cornish lady says what if some one falls and god forbid injures them self I have mentioned this before , what if they are unfortunate enough to fall on one with a "dirty needle" in it or the refuse men injure them selves on one , I think its safe to use the term dirty needles as any one prescription medication that has to inject is provided with a sharps box for safe disposal of, yes needles have been spotted in the waste
What if they are refused insurance or a mortgage because of that question "have you had or thought of having a aids test" it needs sorting this behaviour is not acceptable
As Cornish lady says what if some one falls and god forbid injures them self I have mentioned this before , what if they are unfortunate enough to fall on one with a "dirty needle" in it or the refuse men injure them selves on one , I think its safe to use the term dirty needles as any one prescription medication that has to inject is provided with a sharps box for safe disposal of, yes needles have been spotted in the waste What if they are refused insurance or a mortgage because of that question "have you had or thought of having a aids test" it needs sorting this behaviour is not acceptable abh59
  • Score: 8

11:43pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Stand up to bullies says...

Just ignore jimmy k. He always likes to start a whole whirlwind of crap for no reason
Just ignore jimmy k. He always likes to start a whole whirlwind of crap for no reason Stand up to bullies
  • Score: 4

11:46pm Thu 14 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Stand up to bullies wrote:
Just ignore jimmy k. He always likes to start a whole whirlwind of crap for no reason
I think you'll find that Ian played the race card with his comment "I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain ."

Jimmy K only stated that the nationality of the culprits was being assumed/questioned.
[quote][p][bold]Stand up to bullies[/bold] wrote: Just ignore jimmy k. He always likes to start a whole whirlwind of crap for no reason[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that Ian played the race card with his comment "I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain ." Jimmy K only stated that the nationality of the culprits was being assumed/questioned. MarkPullen
  • Score: 0

4:31am Fri 15 Aug 14

davidw06 says...

Being a tourist, such unhygienic situations do create a concern about the overall cleanliness of anything within the town. Surely, the responsibility for this degrading situation lies within the realms of the Town Council and their By-Laws. And of course the Town Planning department have an accountability for allowing the flat construction without the appropriate amenities being available.
Shame on the authorities, patience may be a virtue but unhygienic conditions are not!
Being a tourist, such unhygienic situations do create a concern about the overall cleanliness of anything within the town. Surely, the responsibility for this degrading situation lies within the realms of the Town Council and their By-Laws. And of course the Town Planning department have an accountability for allowing the flat construction without the appropriate amenities being available. Shame on the authorities, patience may be a virtue but unhygienic conditions are not! davidw06
  • Score: 7

4:38am Fri 15 Aug 14

davidw06 says...

As a tourist seeing these pictures it makes wonder about the overall sense of hygiene and cleanliness of all facilities within the town.
It is difficult to imagine how the Town Council would allow such a disgusting display, surely there must be By Laws regarding rubbish disposal. If the Town authorities are unable to enforce these by-laws how much consideration do they give to others?
Responses about the difficulties the tenants are faced with begs the question as to why the Town Planning Department would allow the initial construction of the flats in the first place.
Patience is a virtue,but, I think it becomes very secondary when there are obvious hygiene threats.
As a tourist seeing these pictures it makes wonder about the overall sense of hygiene and cleanliness of all facilities within the town. It is difficult to imagine how the Town Council would allow such a disgusting display, surely there must be By Laws regarding rubbish disposal. If the Town authorities are unable to enforce these by-laws how much consideration do they give to others? Responses about the difficulties the tenants are faced with begs the question as to why the Town Planning Department would allow the initial construction of the flats in the first place. Patience is a virtue,but, I think it becomes very secondary when there are obvious hygiene threats. davidw06
  • Score: 6

6:35am Fri 15 Aug 14

Little Green Man says...

davidw06 wrote:
As a tourist seeing these pictures it makes wonder about the overall sense of hygiene and cleanliness of all facilities within the town.
It is difficult to imagine how the Town Council would allow such a disgusting display, surely there must be By Laws regarding rubbish disposal. If the Town authorities are unable to enforce these by-laws how much consideration do they give to others?
Responses about the difficulties the tenants are faced with begs the question as to why the Town Planning Department would allow the initial construction of the flats in the first place.
Patience is a virtue,but, I think it becomes very secondary when there are obvious hygiene threats.
Oh no.... he mentioned the council, I can hear the woodwork creaking already
[quote][p][bold]davidw06[/bold] wrote: As a tourist seeing these pictures it makes wonder about the overall sense of hygiene and cleanliness of all facilities within the town. It is difficult to imagine how the Town Council would allow such a disgusting display, surely there must be By Laws regarding rubbish disposal. If the Town authorities are unable to enforce these by-laws how much consideration do they give to others? Responses about the difficulties the tenants are faced with begs the question as to why the Town Planning Department would allow the initial construction of the flats in the first place. Patience is a virtue,but, I think it becomes very secondary when there are obvious hygiene threats.[/p][/quote]Oh no.... he mentioned the council, I can hear the woodwork creaking already Little Green Man
  • Score: 2

7:57am Fri 15 Aug 14

wendytig says...

Surely the point here should be the amount of rubbish that these people are dumping, this is an almost daily occurrence for poor Janet Croden and ForTeas. Nobody should generate that amount of waste on a daily basis, so where is it coming from????
Surely the point here should be the amount of rubbish that these people are dumping, this is an almost daily occurrence for poor Janet Croden and ForTeas. Nobody should generate that amount of waste on a daily basis, so where is it coming from???? wendytig
  • Score: 7

8:16am Fri 15 Aug 14

Klyborn'nbred says...

wendytig wrote:
Surely the point here should be the amount of rubbish that these people are dumping, this is an almost daily occurrence for poor Janet Croden and ForTeas. Nobody should generate that amount of waste on a daily basis, so where is it coming from????
Charity Bins and from the back of Charity shops!! The whole of the town center has turned into a dumping ground! Like someone has already mentioned .. WHY WAS PLANNING PASSED FOR THESE FLATS AND MANY OTHERS AROUND TOWN GIVEN< WITH NO THOUGHT TO TENANTS SAFETY (FIRE) OR PROVISIONS FOR WHEELY BINS , THESE FLATS & OTHERS ARE DEATH TRAPS!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]wendytig[/bold] wrote: Surely the point here should be the amount of rubbish that these people are dumping, this is an almost daily occurrence for poor Janet Croden and ForTeas. Nobody should generate that amount of waste on a daily basis, so where is it coming from????[/p][/quote]Charity Bins and from the back of Charity shops!! The whole of the town center has turned into a dumping ground! Like someone has already mentioned .. WHY WAS PLANNING PASSED FOR THESE FLATS AND MANY OTHERS AROUND TOWN GIVEN< WITH NO THOUGHT TO TENANTS SAFETY (FIRE) OR PROVISIONS FOR WHEELY BINS , THESE FLATS & OTHERS ARE DEATH TRAPS!!!!! Klyborn'nbred
  • Score: 7

10:18am Fri 15 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
[quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 4

10:27am Fri 15 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

Klyborn'nbred wrote:
wendytig wrote:
Surely the point here should be the amount of rubbish that these people are dumping, this is an almost daily occurrence for poor Janet Croden and ForTeas. Nobody should generate that amount of waste on a daily basis, so where is it coming from????
Charity Bins and from the back of Charity shops!! The whole of the town center has turned into a dumping ground! Like someone has already mentioned .. WHY WAS PLANNING PASSED FOR THESE FLATS AND MANY OTHERS AROUND TOWN GIVEN&lt; WITH NO THOUGHT TO TENANTS SAFETY (FIRE) OR PROVISIONS FOR WHEELY BINS , THESE FLATS &amp; OTHERS ARE DEATH TRAPS!!!!!
Klyborn'nbred My work mate lived in a flat above the shops down east parade in the 70 s again not a problem ,it is not the flats that are a problem it is the people .Let us not forget that not long ago that people were clamoring for town centers to have dwellings provided to prevent the centers becoming ghost towns .
[quote][p][bold]Klyborn'nbred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wendytig[/bold] wrote: Surely the point here should be the amount of rubbish that these people are dumping, this is an almost daily occurrence for poor Janet Croden and ForTeas. Nobody should generate that amount of waste on a daily basis, so where is it coming from????[/p][/quote]Charity Bins and from the back of Charity shops!! The whole of the town center has turned into a dumping ground! Like someone has already mentioned .. WHY WAS PLANNING PASSED FOR THESE FLATS AND MANY OTHERS AROUND TOWN GIVEN< WITH NO THOUGHT TO TENANTS SAFETY (FIRE) OR PROVISIONS FOR WHEELY BINS , THESE FLATS & OTHERS ARE DEATH TRAPS!!!!![/p][/quote]Klyborn'nbred My work mate lived in a flat above the shops down east parade in the 70 s again not a problem ,it is not the flats that are a problem it is the people .Let us not forget that not long ago that people were clamoring for town centers to have dwellings provided to prevent the centers becoming ghost towns . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 5

10:28am Fri 15 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable. MarkPullen
  • Score: 5

10:53am Fri 15 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 6

11:01am Fri 15 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions. MarkPullen
  • Score: 0

11:10am Fri 15 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que. Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 5

11:14am Fri 15 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-(

Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved.

Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.[/p][/quote]That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-( Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved. Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s. MarkPullen
  • Score: -2

11:23am Fri 15 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-(

Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved.

Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.
Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.[/p][/quote]That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-( Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved. Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.[/p][/quote]Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 2

12:48pm Fri 15 Aug 14

abh59 says...

there's a lot of he wrote she wrote he wrote she wrote going on do we constantly have to re quote every one?
there's a lot of he wrote she wrote he wrote she wrote going on do we constantly have to re quote every one? abh59
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Fri 15 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

abh59 wrote:
there's a lot of he wrote she wrote he wrote she wrote going on do we constantly have to re quote every one?
Yes!

That's the nature of quoting - to show those reading the thread of conversation as opposed to a singular comment.
[quote][p][bold]abh59[/bold] wrote: there's a lot of he wrote she wrote he wrote she wrote going on do we constantly have to re quote every one?[/p][/quote]Yes! That's the nature of quoting - to show those reading the thread of conversation as opposed to a singular comment. MarkPullen
  • Score: -4

2:27pm Fri 15 Aug 14

OUT WITH CAVETOWN says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops .

Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .[/p][/quote]The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops . Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!. OUT WITH CAVETOWN
  • Score: -9

6:21pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops .

Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!.
OWC please tell me what local group do I belong to ,no as usual you can not simply because I am not in one and as usual your comments have no bearing on the subject .Your sole intent is to besmirch a group of people who as is their right examined the council accounts etc and forwarded some 50 objections to the external auditors which was accepted ,and will be commented on in due course .Regarding the word disgusting this is a word that applies to your self and your fellow councilors who blackmailed the gala committee(their words not mine) into refusing us a table at the local gala to obtain signatures to allow filming of the council meetings ,as it happened a futile demand,as filming is now allowed .Disgusting also applies to your good self for the comments regarding the nature of a persons employment who was attempting to form his own political party ,rather than join a political party such as yourself who on winning the seat was unable to state what the objects of the party was .I would suggest that you attempt to live up to your name as a councilor and assist this lady in ensuring that there will be no repetition of this dumping of rubbish in future .
[quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .[/p][/quote]The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops . Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!.[/p][/quote]OWC please tell me what local group do I belong to ,no as usual you can not simply because I am not in one and as usual your comments have no bearing on the subject .Your sole intent is to besmirch a group of people who as is their right examined the council accounts etc and forwarded some 50 objections to the external auditors which was accepted ,and will be commented on in due course .Regarding the word disgusting this is a word that applies to your self and your fellow councilors who blackmailed the gala committee(their words not mine) into refusing us a table at the local gala to obtain signatures to allow filming of the council meetings ,as it happened a futile demand,as filming is now allowed .Disgusting also applies to your good self for the comments regarding the nature of a persons employment who was attempting to form his own political party ,rather than join a political party such as yourself who on winning the seat was unable to state what the objects of the party was .I would suggest that you attempt to live up to your name as a councilor and assist this lady in ensuring that there will be no repetition of this dumping of rubbish in future . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 5

8:09pm Fri 15 Aug 14

FORTEAS says...

The Kly News only showed, one picture.......... I however have HUNDREDS.. !!!!!!! My camera, and computer, are FULL OF RUBBISH PICTURES........ LITERALLY :( The picture in the paper, was taken on a Wednesday, which is collection day ????? BUT, they DON'T..... DON'T BAG IT UP, they just throw it out on to the path, or out of the windows, on to the path, hitting people below...............
.............. H. E. L. P. :((((((((((
The Kly News only showed, one picture.......... I however have HUNDREDS.. !!!!!!! My camera, and computer, are FULL OF RUBBISH PICTURES........ LITERALLY :( The picture in the paper, was taken on a Wednesday, which is collection day ????? BUT, they DON'T..... DON'T BAG IT UP, they just throw it out on to the path, or out of the windows, on to the path, hitting people below............... .............. H. E. L. P. :(((((((((( FORTEAS
  • Score: 7

8:15pm Fri 15 Aug 14

OUT WITH CAVETOWN says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops .

Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!.
OWC please tell me what local group do I belong to ,no as usual you can not simply because I am not in one and as usual your comments have no bearing on the subject .Your sole intent is to besmirch a group of people who as is their right examined the council accounts etc and forwarded some 50 objections to the external auditors which was accepted ,and will be commented on in due course .Regarding the word disgusting this is a word that applies to your self and your fellow councilors who blackmailed the gala committee(their words not mine) into refusing us a table at the local gala to obtain signatures to allow filming of the council meetings ,as it happened a futile demand,as filming is now allowed .Disgusting also applies to your good self for the comments regarding the nature of a persons employment who was attempting to form his own political party ,rather than join a political party such as yourself who on winning the seat was unable to state what the objects of the party was .I would suggest that you attempt to live up to your name as a councilor and assist this lady in ensuring that there will be no repetition of this dumping of rubbish in future .
Unbelievable ,well no it's not you again show your true self.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .[/p][/quote]The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops . Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!.[/p][/quote]OWC please tell me what local group do I belong to ,no as usual you can not simply because I am not in one and as usual your comments have no bearing on the subject .Your sole intent is to besmirch a group of people who as is their right examined the council accounts etc and forwarded some 50 objections to the external auditors which was accepted ,and will be commented on in due course .Regarding the word disgusting this is a word that applies to your self and your fellow councilors who blackmailed the gala committee(their words not mine) into refusing us a table at the local gala to obtain signatures to allow filming of the council meetings ,as it happened a futile demand,as filming is now allowed .Disgusting also applies to your good self for the comments regarding the nature of a persons employment who was attempting to form his own political party ,rather than join a political party such as yourself who on winning the seat was unable to state what the objects of the party was .I would suggest that you attempt to live up to your name as a councilor and assist this lady in ensuring that there will be no repetition of this dumping of rubbish in future .[/p][/quote]Unbelievable ,well no it's not you again show your true self. OUT WITH CAVETOWN
  • Score: 1

12:21am Sat 16 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-(

Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved.

Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.
Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .
I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality.

The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals.

I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.[/p][/quote]That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-( Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved. Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.[/p][/quote]Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .[/p][/quote]I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality. The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals. I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept. MarkPullen
  • Score: 2

8:56am Sat 16 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops .

Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!.
OWC please tell me what local group do I belong to ,no as usual you can not simply because I am not in one and as usual your comments have no bearing on the subject .Your sole intent is to besmirch a group of people who as is their right examined the council accounts etc and forwarded some 50 objections to the external auditors which was accepted ,and will be commented on in due course .Regarding the word disgusting this is a word that applies to your self and your fellow councilors who blackmailed the gala committee(their words not mine) into refusing us a table at the local gala to obtain signatures to allow filming of the council meetings ,as it happened a futile demand,as filming is now allowed .Disgusting also applies to your good self for the comments regarding the nature of a persons employment who was attempting to form his own political party ,rather than join a political party such as yourself who on winning the seat was unable to state what the objects of the party was .I would suggest that you attempt to live up to your name as a councilor and assist this lady in ensuring that there will be no repetition of this dumping of rubbish in future .
Unbelievable ,well no it's not you again show your true self.
You must have read 4 teas comments below as a councilor attempt to help the lady.
[quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .[/p][/quote]The remarks by IHR are downright disgusting and show his true self , I won't mention which Local Group he belongs to ( for a change) , they however would have jumped on his remarks and sung from the rooftops . Would be a good hiding place for a Stalker IDH!.[/p][/quote]OWC please tell me what local group do I belong to ,no as usual you can not simply because I am not in one and as usual your comments have no bearing on the subject .Your sole intent is to besmirch a group of people who as is their right examined the council accounts etc and forwarded some 50 objections to the external auditors which was accepted ,and will be commented on in due course .Regarding the word disgusting this is a word that applies to your self and your fellow councilors who blackmailed the gala committee(their words not mine) into refusing us a table at the local gala to obtain signatures to allow filming of the council meetings ,as it happened a futile demand,as filming is now allowed .Disgusting also applies to your good self for the comments regarding the nature of a persons employment who was attempting to form his own political party ,rather than join a political party such as yourself who on winning the seat was unable to state what the objects of the party was .I would suggest that you attempt to live up to your name as a councilor and assist this lady in ensuring that there will be no repetition of this dumping of rubbish in future .[/p][/quote]Unbelievable ,well no it's not you again show your true self.[/p][/quote]You must have read 4 teas comments below as a councilor attempt to help the lady. Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 1

9:23am Sat 16 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-(

Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved.

Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.
Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .
I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality.

The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals.

I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.
Assuming can make an **** of you and me Mark ,tell me why do you think they were fly tipping in this way ? and one thing is for sure I will always be me. With regards Bigotry and prejudice you are wrong any one who knows me will be aware that I am most certainly not a Bigot or prejudice, however I will admit to being anti authority particularly when the people who place themselves in that position are utterly incompetent .There is an old saying man know thyself I can assure you I most certainly do,
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.[/p][/quote]That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-( Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved. Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.[/p][/quote]Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .[/p][/quote]I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality. The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals. I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.[/p][/quote]Assuming can make an **** of you and me Mark ,tell me why do you think they were fly tipping in this way ? and one thing is for sure I will always be me. With regards Bigotry and prejudice you are wrong any one who knows me will be aware that I am most certainly not a Bigot or prejudice, however I will admit to being anti authority particularly when the people who place themselves in that position are utterly incompetent .There is an old saying man know thyself I can assure you I most certainly do, Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 0

9:27am Sat 16 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

FORTEAS wrote:
The Kly News only showed, one picture.......... I however have HUNDREDS.. !!!!!!! My camera, and computer, are FULL OF RUBBISH PICTURES........ LITERALLY :( The picture in the paper, was taken on a Wednesday, which is collection day ????? BUT, they DON'T..... DON'T BAG IT UP, they just throw it out on to the path, or out of the windows, on to the path, hitting people below...............

.............. H. E. L. P. :((((((((((
Forteas get some placards made up the next time this happens I will gladly parade around your shop and the area where the rubbish is and I am sure I wont be the only volunteer .
[quote][p][bold]FORTEAS[/bold] wrote: The Kly News only showed, one picture.......... I however have HUNDREDS.. !!!!!!! My camera, and computer, are FULL OF RUBBISH PICTURES........ LITERALLY :( The picture in the paper, was taken on a Wednesday, which is collection day ????? BUT, they DON'T..... DON'T BAG IT UP, they just throw it out on to the path, or out of the windows, on to the path, hitting people below............... .............. H. E. L. P. :(((((((((([/p][/quote]Forteas get some placards made up the next time this happens I will gladly parade around your shop and the area where the rubbish is and I am sure I wont be the only volunteer . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 0

9:56am Sat 16 Aug 14

jimmy k says...

thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.
thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from. jimmy k
  • Score: 4

11:04am Sat 16 Aug 14

OUT WITH CAVETOWN says...

jimmy k wrote:
thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.
And once a racist always a racist .
[quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.[/p][/quote]And once a racist always a racist . OUT WITH CAVETOWN
  • Score: 0

11:46am Sat 16 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
jimmy k wrote:
thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.
And once a racist always a racist .
OWC bonce a conservative always a conservative ,Oh sorry now a ukip .
[quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.[/p][/quote]And once a racist always a racist .[/p][/quote]OWC bonce a conservative always a conservative ,Oh sorry now a ukip . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: -1

12:40pm Sat 16 Aug 14

OUT WITH CAVETOWN says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
jimmy k wrote:
thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.
And once a racist always a racist .
OWC bonce a conservative always a conservative ,Oh sorry now a ukip .
IHR once a member of Cavetown always a member of Cavetown.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.[/p][/quote]And once a racist always a racist .[/p][/quote]OWC bonce a conservative always a conservative ,Oh sorry now a ukip .[/p][/quote]IHR once a member of Cavetown always a member of Cavetown. OUT WITH CAVETOWN
  • Score: -2

4:39pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-(

Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved.

Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.
Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .
I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality.

The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals.

I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.
Mark you have unfortunately come to the wrong conclusion I have no problem with those born in other countries, one of my grandchildren s father was as you put it born in another country .
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.[/p][/quote]That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-( Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved. Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.[/p][/quote]Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .[/p][/quote]I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality. The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals. I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.[/p][/quote]Mark you have unfortunately come to the wrong conclusion I have no problem with those born in other countries, one of my grandchildren s father was as you put it born in another country . Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: -2

5:26pm Sat 16 Aug 14

OUT WITH CAVETOWN says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
Racism , bigotry and predujice, you would not expect less from a founder of the Cavetown Group .
No place in Keighley for such individuals !.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .[/p][/quote]Racism , bigotry and predujice, you would not expect less from a founder of the Cavetown Group . No place in Keighley for such individuals !. OUT WITH CAVETOWN
  • Score: -2

7:47pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.
I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .
Racism , bigotry and predujice, you would not expect less from a founder of the Cavetown Group .
No place in Keighley for such individuals !.
Wrong again never a founder but I would have been proud to have been one ,I look forward to seeing your face on the screen when filming commences and point out to the viewer who OWC is .I understand you have now received a copy off the auditors report, I hope you enjoyed reading them as much as I did .Now again what are you going to do to help this lady with the problem of fly tipping ? ,your silence will speak volumes for you.
[quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined.[/p][/quote]I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain .[/p][/quote]Racism , bigotry and predujice, you would not expect less from a founder of the Cavetown Group . No place in Keighley for such individuals !.[/p][/quote]Wrong again never a founder but I would have been proud to have been one ,I look forward to seeing your face on the screen when filming commences and point out to the viewer who OWC is .I understand you have now received a copy off the auditors report, I hope you enjoyed reading them as much as I did .Now again what are you going to do to help this lady with the problem of fly tipping ? ,your silence will speak volumes for you. Ian-Holt Roberts
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Sat 16 Aug 14

FORTEAS says...

Mark ,and Ian, thank u for commenting on this story, but I do feel that it is loosing the reason the story was printed ???????? seams more a war of words, between the 2 of you ???? PLEASE, can we get back to the issue at hand....... I need support, not personal sabotage :(
Mark ,and Ian, thank u for commenting on this story, but I do feel that it is loosing the reason the story was printed ???????? seams more a war of words, between the 2 of you ???? PLEASE, can we get back to the issue at hand....... I need support, not personal sabotage :( FORTEAS
  • Score: 6

11:51pm Sat 16 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-(

Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved.

Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.
Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .
I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality.

The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals.

I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.
Assuming can make an **** of you and me Mark ,tell me why do you think they were fly tipping in this way ? and one thing is for sure I will always be me. With regards Bigotry and prejudice you are wrong any one who knows me will be aware that I am most certainly not a Bigot or prejudice, however I will admit to being anti authority particularly when the people who place themselves in that position are utterly incompetent .There is an old saying man know thyself I can assure you I most certainly do,
Ian - you clearly stated "I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain" in response to my post that said "Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined."

I'm struggling to see how this comment is "anti-authority" but clearly racist and shows a high level of stereotyping on your part. Are the residents non-UK passport holders?

Again, I'm happy that we differ on this aspect Ian - whether the residents are British or any other nationality is irrelevant and again exposes a side to your personality which I find disgusting.

If their place of birth isn't an aspect you felt relevant then maybe you should have considered your comments before posting first.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.[/p][/quote]That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-( Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved. Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.[/p][/quote]Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .[/p][/quote]I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality. The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals. I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.[/p][/quote]Assuming can make an **** of you and me Mark ,tell me why do you think they were fly tipping in this way ? and one thing is for sure I will always be me. With regards Bigotry and prejudice you are wrong any one who knows me will be aware that I am most certainly not a Bigot or prejudice, however I will admit to being anti authority particularly when the people who place themselves in that position are utterly incompetent .There is an old saying man know thyself I can assure you I most certainly do,[/p][/quote]Ian - you clearly stated "I do not think so because they are not called Mr English or Mrs Britain" in response to my post that said "Surely if they've been asked to put their rubbish out on a Wednesday for collection and they leave waste at other times it is fly-tipping and therefore the tenants should be fined." I'm struggling to see how this comment is "anti-authority" but clearly racist and shows a high level of stereotyping on your part. Are the residents non-UK passport holders? Again, I'm happy that we differ on this aspect Ian - whether the residents are British or any other nationality is irrelevant and again exposes a side to your personality which I find disgusting. If their place of birth isn't an aspect you felt relevant then maybe you should have considered your comments before posting first. MarkPullen
  • Score: -6

11:52pm Sat 16 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
Cornishlady wrote:
This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law.

How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea.

I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business.

The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire?

Who passed the plans for them?

Let us all have some answers.

What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then?

It is ludicrous.......
Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .
Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that &quot;The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste."

The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.
Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .
No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story.

It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act.

The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish.

I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.
Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.
That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-(

Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved.

Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.
Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .
I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality.

The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals.

I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.
Assuming can make an **** of you and me Mark ,tell me why do you think they were fly tipping in this way ? and one thing is for sure I will always be me. With regards Bigotry and prejudice you are wrong any one who knows me will be aware that I am most certainly not a Bigot or prejudice, however I will admit to being anti authority particularly when the people who place themselves in that position are utterly incompetent .There is an old saying man know thyself I can assure you I most certainly do,
I think with these posts we have all begun to know you as well.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornishlady[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous, what does it matter what nationality they are - it is blatant ignorance of the law. How on earth does anyone run a business (food and drink) with this constantly being dumped on the pavement outside. Would anyone want to look at this whilst eating a cream tea. I think the owner should apply to the authorities for compensation as this will clearly affect the business. The flats should never ever have been built above the shops in the first place, safety is of the utmost importance. How do these people get out if there is a fire? Who passed the plans for them? Let us all have some answers. What happens if someone who has bad eyesight or mobility problems falls over it and is injured...whose fault it is then? It is ludicrous.......[/p][/quote]Cornishlady sorry but my friend lived in one of these flats 48 years ago and I do not recall any problem with dumping rubbish on the pavement .[/p][/quote]Whilst in no way do I want to support these fly-tipping residents I do want to point out, Ian, that within the story it is noted that "The tenants of the flats have lost their internal storage space for their rubbish, and they also have no rear exit for their homes, so it is quite difficult for them to know where to put their waste." The issue seems to be about educating the residents as to the most appropriate way to dispose of their waste - leaving on the pavement on days other that those designated for collection is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Excuses is what it is ,as I understand it the tenants have been warned ,they must be fully aware that it is not acceptable .Question would any one who has commented on these threads do this, particularly if it was causing distress to a neighbor no of course not .[/p][/quote]No quite sure what your last comment refers to in relation to the story. It isn't acceptable and as I've already said if the rubbish is left out on days other than those designated for a collection then it is fly-tipping and they should be penalised for the criminal act. The landlords/owners must be brought to task on ensuring that adequate internal/external storage is provided for residents rubbish. I disagree Ian that losing internal storage space and not having a rear exit from the property is an excuse - they are two of the factors affecting the fly-tipping. Again I'm not supporting the residents or culprits but after you intimated that their nationality was a reason you lost my respect on this one - drive around many Keighley estates to see that Mr English and Mrs British are just as capable of creating slum conditions.[/p][/quote]Mark not interested in you loosing respect for me .join the Que.[/p][/quote]That's sad to hear Ian - I thought we'd had positive conversations in the past :-( Playing the race card wasn't a good move though - this is about residents breaking the law and the authorities / landlords failing to ensure that the public health risk and breach regarding fly-tipping is resolved. Your bigotry and prejudices should have been left in the 1970s.[/p][/quote]Bigotry and prejudice who are you to judge a person ? or object to their beliefs .You will be suggesting next that we all should think and act like you,God forgive mate it will never happen .[/p][/quote]I just felt that you assumed that the residents were flytipping because of their nationality. The story doesn't indicate that the individuals were anything other than individuals. I'm more than happy for you to be yourself Ian .... and I'm happy to keep on being open minded about those born in other countries. We differ on this and that's an difference between us that I am prepared to accept.[/p][/quote]Assuming can make an **** of you and me Mark ,tell me why do you think they were fly tipping in this way ? and one thing is for sure I will always be me. With regards Bigotry and prejudice you are wrong any one who knows me will be aware that I am most certainly not a Bigot or prejudice, however I will admit to being anti authority particularly when the people who place themselves in that position are utterly incompetent .There is an old saying man know thyself I can assure you I most certainly do,[/p][/quote]I think with these posts we have all begun to know you as well. MarkPullen
  • Score: -3

11:54pm Sat 16 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
jimmy k wrote:
thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.
And once a racist always a racist .
OWC bonce a conservative always a conservative ,Oh sorry now a ukip .
Maybe the UKIP councillors and BNP would also join you Ian with your protest, along with decent residents?
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: thanks mark,yes you're right i wasn't commenting on the story merely ians comment,it was ian who played the race card not me,i fail to understand what the nationality of the people doing this got to do with anything.as mark points out we all know that people from all communities are capable of creating slums.on the story itself i really can't understand why the perpetrators can't be arrested for this as im sure the police going through the rubbish would find evidence where it came from.[/p][/quote]And once a racist always a racist .[/p][/quote]OWC bonce a conservative always a conservative ,Oh sorry now a ukip .[/p][/quote]Maybe the UKIP councillors and BNP would also join you Ian with your protest, along with decent residents? MarkPullen
  • Score: -4

11:57pm Sat 16 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

FORTEAS wrote:
Mark ,and Ian, thank u for commenting on this story, but I do feel that it is loosing the reason the story was printed ???????? seams more a war of words, between the 2 of you ???? PLEASE, can we get back to the issue at hand....... I need support, not personal sabotage :(
Janet - the issue is why the council aren't supporting local traders with flytipping?

Whilst seeing this litter is bad enough on a Wednesday it's shambolic that the appropriate actions aren't taken against landlords/owners immediately.
[quote][p][bold]FORTEAS[/bold] wrote: Mark ,and Ian, thank u for commenting on this story, but I do feel that it is loosing the reason the story was printed ???????? seams more a war of words, between the 2 of you ???? PLEASE, can we get back to the issue at hand....... I need support, not personal sabotage :([/p][/quote]Janet - the issue is why the council aren't supporting local traders with flytipping? Whilst seeing this litter is bad enough on a Wednesday it's shambolic that the appropriate actions aren't taken against landlords/owners immediately. MarkPullen
  • Score: -2

3:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

abh59 says...

I have got to agree with Janet of forteas seems to have degenerated into the usual cavetown supporters versus ktc slanging match with quote and counter quote which brings us back to the original point nothing seems to be being done at any great speed to rectify the problem and in all honesty waste disposal is not within ktc's responsibility's though I would have thought the could have offered more support in pointing janet in the right direction on who to contact within BDMC to resolve the matter .
Perhaps if they put as much effort into working for the good of the town that they proclaim to support rather than attempting to further their own cause this matter wouldn't have got this far and being ,and I use the term loosely, debated in this manner
I have got to agree with Janet of forteas seems to have degenerated into the usual cavetown supporters versus ktc slanging match with quote and counter quote which brings us back to the original point nothing seems to be being done at any great speed to rectify the problem and in all honesty waste disposal is not within ktc's responsibility's though I would have thought the could have offered more support in pointing janet in the right direction on who to contact within BDMC to resolve the matter . Perhaps if they put as much effort into working for the good of the town that they proclaim to support rather than attempting to further their own cause this matter wouldn't have got this far and being ,and I use the term loosely, debated in this manner abh59
  • Score: 4

3:48pm Sun 17 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

abh59 wrote:
I have got to agree with Janet of forteas seems to have degenerated into the usual cavetown supporters versus ktc slanging match with quote and counter quote which brings us back to the original point nothing seems to be being done at any great speed to rectify the problem and in all honesty waste disposal is not within ktc's responsibility's though I would have thought the could have offered more support in pointing janet in the right direction on who to contact within BDMC to resolve the matter .
Perhaps if they put as much effort into working for the good of the town that they proclaim to support rather than attempting to further their own cause this matter wouldn't have got this far and being ,and I use the term loosely, debated in this manner
Not quite sure about the "cavetown supporters versus ktc" - unless you're not talking about me!
[quote][p][bold]abh59[/bold] wrote: I have got to agree with Janet of forteas seems to have degenerated into the usual cavetown supporters versus ktc slanging match with quote and counter quote which brings us back to the original point nothing seems to be being done at any great speed to rectify the problem and in all honesty waste disposal is not within ktc's responsibility's though I would have thought the could have offered more support in pointing janet in the right direction on who to contact within BDMC to resolve the matter . Perhaps if they put as much effort into working for the good of the town that they proclaim to support rather than attempting to further their own cause this matter wouldn't have got this far and being ,and I use the term loosely, debated in this manner[/p][/quote]Not quite sure about the "cavetown supporters versus ktc" - unless you're not talking about me! MarkPullen
  • Score: -2

8:49pm Wed 20 Aug 14

piper56 says...

send the lot back home problem solved
send the lot back home problem solved piper56
  • Score: -1

9:39pm Wed 20 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

piper56 wrote:
send the lot back home problem solved
"Back home"?

Please clarify - not sure I have seen evidence of their place of birth.
[quote][p][bold]piper56[/bold] wrote: send the lot back home problem solved[/p][/quote]"Back home"? Please clarify - not sure I have seen evidence of their place of birth. MarkPullen
  • Score: 0

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