Staff ‘shattered’ by jobs threat at laundry service (From Keighley News)
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Staff ‘shattered’ by jobs threat at laundry service
11:29am Thursday 3rd January 2013 in Keighley
Airedale Hospital laundry worker, Jeanette Wilson, who is among those at risk of losing their job
Nearly 30 jobs are at risk according to union bosses following a decision to partially outsource Airedale Hospital’s 42-year-old laundry service.
Airedale NHS Foundation Trust has confirmed the move. Managers said they will do what they can to minimise the impact on staff, but say the changes are necessary because of the major investment needed to keep the laundry operating effectively.
But a union organiser said he and his colleagues were “shattered” to hear the news, and branded the move short-sighted.
Unison regional organiser Rob Demaine said the decision would return to haunt the hospital when the chosen contractor increased its prices.
He said more than 3,300 people had signed a petition calling for the laundry to remain ‘in-house’.
Linen assistant Jeanette Wilson, who lives in Steeton and has worked at the laundry for 17 years, said she and her colleagues felt “gutted”.
She added: “I love my job and this has really come as a blow – but we’re all in the same boat.
“Everything is up in the air at the moment and it’s very worrying not knowing if you’re going to have a job.”
Airedale will contract out linen washing, drying and ironing, but will continue to clean cloths, mops and patient clothing, and provide a sewing room for repairs, labelling uniforms and making and altering clothes for prosthesis patients.
Christine Miles, director of operations at Airedale, said: “We will support all those affected to either secure jobs under the new laundry service arrangements, explore alternative employment opportunities here at the foundation trust or in one of our neighbouring providers, or consider voluntary redundancy.”
l What do you think? We welcome letters on this or any other subject. E-mail richard.parker @keighleynews.co.uk.
Comments(100)
samuels david
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8:50pm Thu 3 Jan 13
David Samuels
jimmy k
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11:21am Fri 4 Jan 13
samuels david
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12:58pm Fri 4 Jan 13
I would like to think that I have friends who each have a different political point of view.
My very best friends are extremely left wing of nearly fifty years and of equal importance are my right and far right friends.
Forty years ago I became a member of the Liberal Party but resigned three months later after I discovered lies had been told to me by the local hierarchy.
I have not been a member of any political party since, but from a personal point of view I believe each party has some views with which I could subscribe to.
Please do not tell lies about me jimmy k as they do you no good in your campaign of trying to silence those of us trying to publicly unravel the financial losses within KTC.
David Samuels
jimmy k
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1:31pm Fri 4 Jan 13
i wouldn't want to shut up up david as your obsession with the town council and the paranoia you display here keep me giggling through the cold winter evenings(and warm summer ones.)
Little Green Man
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8:00pm Fri 4 Jan 13
To all my friends here in KNewsLand, Jimmy, Shauny, Dave, Stan, Graham and anyone else who knows me - I hope you had a fabulous Christmas and New Year, best wishes for 2013, I hope it brings you everything you deserve...:)
samuels david
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10:01pm Fri 4 Jan 13
as long as I believe they have honest intent, as a matter of common courtesy.
If you wish to make wild allegations against me, then back them up with evidence, as I do.
All my emails, all postings with reference to me on the Keighly News Boggs have been saved, just so spurious and lying allegations can be checked and verified.
Such a system has brought me few friends in KTC, but truth is what is needed, even though you think that seeking truth is an obsession.
The only paranoia I see is from your friends in KTC who however much they try to salvage the gross folly they have created have not yet realized that financial bandages and gaffer tape, borrowing more money or putting up the precept, the truth will out and the humiliation the hierarchy have coming will last for many years in Keighley, even though the word 'exemplary' may be used to glorfy those egomaniacs who refused to listen to simple and basic advice.
Finally jimmy k,. let me say all people, of whatever religion, color, creed or political views, have a right to speak and express themselves without the rudeness of a closed mind who refuse to debate.
Both you and I, jimmy k must allow even those with whom you don’t agree with, must be able to state a case, otherwise the people such as KTC would only have the opinion they themselves dictated.
Think about it jimmy k, are your views to be silenced?
David Samuels
jimmy k
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10:54pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Little Green Man
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3:13am Sat 5 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
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9:42am Sat 5 Jan 13
N.H.D food provision was privatised, so what has been the outcome?
Government must set standards to improve hospital food
NHS hospitals in England buy a lot of food, enough for 300 million patient meals a year. Much of it is poor quality and unpopular with those who are asked to eat it.
Most people have a negative view of hospital food. This is perhaps not surprising given the endless stream of horrendous hospital food stories in the press, including revelations that one in every 10 patient meals is returned to the kitchen uneaten.
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/healthcare-net
work/2012/nov/02/sta
ndards-improve-hospi
tal-food-england
According to UNISON, the privatisation of cleaning is another example of things gone wrong, as a survey undertaken by Nursing Times showed nurses and other hospital staff were having to help keep ward clean on a regular basis
A report in the B.M.J stated the Swedish coalition government has banned the privatisation of hospitals due to concerns it would undermine the free and fair public health service.
Even with the track record of U turns undertaker by Nick Clegg, I doubt if this coalition will do another U turn on this subject and put a strop to any further privatisation.
samuels david
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11:26am Sat 5 Jan 13
One:
I am old enough to remember being in hospital over sixty years ago and if my memory serves me right, the food was always eagerly awaited, the nurses were appreciated as angels, in fact I married one, and after being together for just over fifty seven years my thoughts on the woman has never altered.
Two:
When the Airedale hospital outsourced the basic catering to a Company in Wales, like many others I protested, but in vain as, what I and others deemed high salaries for so-called top management of the hospital was placed higher than the localised economy.
Three.
The Politian’s of the day, sadly, did nothing at all to mitigate the situation, and the Politian’s of today will also do nothing to alleviate the running sore of the privatisation of the NHS.
My final point is directed at jimmy (James) k.
For a person who professes to have no views except on slices of fish between 2 other slices of potato, (all very revealing1) it is noticed the lie published about me on this page has not yet been corrected, all very KTC jimmy (James) k, but then honour is also a rare commodity at KTC these days.
David Samuels
Stevo54
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2:38pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Getting back to the serious topic here ie scones versus fish cakes, when I was living in New York City I ran the Brooklyn Half Marathon a few times and on the first occasion a running club friend asked me to join a few of them at a traditional British fish and chip cafe for lunch after the race.
The place was owned and run by a bloke from Yorkshire who turned out a very respectable menu including haddock or cod and chips with mushy peas and tea with white bread and butter.
On the pudding menu was spotted dick, rhubarb crumble and apple pie etc all with real custard. I guess the guy also had a death wish as they also served for desert deep fried Mars bars dipped in batter if you fancied.
jimmy k
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3:43pm Sat 5 Jan 13
samuels david
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4:27pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Like your friends at KTC your lies have beebn exposed, and any honour you may have had has been seen as a fraud. You can run but you can't hide from a truth. what you put out will always come back and bite you!
David Samuels, .
jimmy k
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5:02pm Sat 5 Jan 13
jimmy k
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5:07pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
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7:11pm Sat 5 Jan 13
A short history of privatisation in the UK: 1979-2012
Royal Mail is being auctioned, and not necessarily to the highest bidder (and stamp prices are going up). The London fire brigade is outsourcing 999 calls
1982-86: Lift-off
Amid the early 80s recession, the Tories had begun to propose privatisation as a potential panacea. Conservative MP Geoffrey Howe extolled the "discipline" of the marketplace. The emerging doctrine was that privatisation would make the large utilities more efficient and productive, and thus make British capitalism competitive relative to its continental rivals. In this period, the government sold off Jaguar, British Telecom, the remainder of Cable & Wireless and British Aerospace, Britoil and British Gas. The focus had shifted to privatising core utilities.
1987-91: Leaps and bounds
Following the Tories' third election victory, they were sufficiently confident to roll out their most aggressive privatisation programme yet. British Steel, British Petroleum, Rolls Royce, British Airways, water and electricity were among the major utilities for sale. These privatisations provoked serious opposition, perhaps sufficient to curb any tendency toward privatisation in the NHS.
• 1992-96: Weakness and retreat
Inflicting a second defeat on the miners, the government proceeded with the final sell-off of British Coal, as well as electricity generating companies Powergen and National Power, and British Rail.
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2012/mar/29/short-hi
story-of-privatisati
on
samuels david
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10:31pm Sat 5 Jan 13
The post on this site was about many local people being put out of work in the NHS, and you only say jimmy k, with regard to views on the subject, is ‘i don't really have any except maybe i think a slice of fish between 2 other slices of potatoes is called a scone and not a fish cake.’
What a society we have, jimmy k. people being put out of work and all you and your friends can do is try to smother the story.
No wonder this country has no moral backbone, no leadership, a land of corruption that increases daily.
Well lads and lassies, drink the drink you have talked about so often, eat your stand pies, fish scones, mock and laugh at others less fortunate than yourselves, and believe me there are many.
Sleep well!
David Samuels
samuels david
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11:15pm Sat 5 Jan 13
You’ll love this one lads and lassies, it's just right for your night out on the weak and less fortunate.
Fuel poverty in Keighley!
While your friends in KTC spend money with out a thought seemingly,
statistics – collected by Turn2us, part of national charity Elizabeth Finn Care – show that in the BD21 postcode area, which covers Keighley, one respondent to a survey said they were in “very high fuel poverty”, spending 46 per cent of their household budget on gas and electricity.
It’s just another of my obsessions ( jimmy k, 1.31pm Fri 4 Jan13)
Silly old me, but I just don’t wish people to die of a lack of heating.
Come on friends of KTC this should be meat and drink for you.
Suffocate the story it’ll be another feather in your cap of inhumanity!
Ps, if you need more vitriol to stir up your obvious hatred towards those less well of who simply can’t afford your lifestyles of pig, fish and beers, may I suggest you attack Graham Forsyth posting, of 7:11pm Sat 5 Jan 13th. it’s all true so you can throw and use as many insults at these truths as you like. but unfortunately aim higher lads and lassies because the public now think you are the laughing stock and associates of KTC.
David Samuels
Graham Forsyth
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8:34am Sun 6 Jan 13
“Rising numbers of people are becoming suicidal as spiralling mortgage arrears mean they face the threat of losing their home, a Bradford charity has warned.
Christians Against Poverty (CAP) said that 28 per cent of its new clients in 2012 were in arrears with their rent or mortgage, compared to 21 per cent of callers the year before.
That comes as Hope Housing, which helps homeless people in the district, reported that it helped four people without a home at Christmas, two who had been evicted and two who left prison with nowhere to go.
A CAP spokesman said: “This shows that those who call us are in an increasingly-serious situation, with four in ten of callers nationally saying they were suicidal in 2012.”
Homelessness charity Shelter has warned that 7.8 million Britons are struggling to keep up with their rent or mortgage payments, a sharp increase on a year ago.
Shelter also estimates almost one million people took out a payday loan in 2012 to help them cover their mortgage or rent.”
http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/10142673.More_Bra
dford_people_seeking
_help_on_mortgages/
I am sure for these people how a scone is made and why it is named as such is not of any real importance to them. How to keep their jobs, pay their fuel bills, and keeping a roof over their families heads will I have no doubt take priority.
Little Green Man
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11:32am Sun 6 Jan 13
samuels david
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1:52pm Sun 6 Jan 13
No doubt, some of the irritable tirade, was also possibly directed at others, including myself.
What I really found fascinating was not what was said but what was not said.
For instance, why hasn’t the writer defended the staff at Airedale Hospital who are due to be fired, but who unlike him/her self has seemingly a job which provides him with his/her with finances enabling him/her to constantly sample various stand pies, fish and beers that he and his cohorts goes on about in his postings.
No comment about the highly paid local hospital managers who are to put staff on the dole, which in the end cost twice as much to the local economy, (no income, no tax paid!)
Nearly as importantly, the cost to the hospital will rise as prices from the private contractor are inevitably raised as happened dramatically when the kitchens were ‘privatised’, but of course did justify the management’s own financial survival at that time!
Why no comment on the ominous and menacing silence regarding the devastating weekly financial lost of probably two to three thousand pounds a week propping up the white elephant, the Keighley Town Council civic centre.
This project was doomed to a financial death right at the start, and I said so at the time, and totally ignored, when I was on the KTC finance committee, because no services of a top professional analytical enquiry as to the viability of the project in the face of the oncoming economic chaos was engaged.
Mr. Forsyth, the writer has no detailed comment of those ‘many charities that he/she is reluctant to shout about, because I assume these charities he/she supports don’t really need the additional hand of free publicity.
Mr. Forsyth, I have never judged any book by its cover, but the truth or not that I find within the book.
David Samuels
Graham Forsyth
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3:18pm Sun 6 Jan 13
“..and indirectly through paying my taxes I do support those less fortunate. I also support many charities ...”
I am sure those facing losing their jobs at Airedale Hospital will be wondering why a person with such a charitable disposition sees fit to reduce the news item covering their unfortunate position to a level of scones and free scraps.
One does not have to judge a book by it's cover, one has only to read it's contents as posted.
Little Green Man
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3:21pm Sun 6 Jan 13
Little Green Man
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3:26pm Sun 6 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
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4:29pm Sun 6 Jan 13
“Then by your posts Graham you are an insufferable bore who has no opinions of his own just those he cut and pastes from other peoples work.”
Well, L.G.M, your comment would cover the majority of humanity as the majority of humanity attain their academic knowledge, social skills, and beliefs etc from the works undertaking by those who have gone before them. All those who attain degrees for example do so by reading,quoting, and reproducing the works of others. Indeed, our western civilisation is based upon Greek philosophy, would you have us all abandon that?
L.G.M says.
“Only I'm not that shallow Graham, I'm sure you are actually a most intelligent and interesting person to know in 'reality.”
If you are sure of that L.G.M why the need to make the above comment of myself being an insufferable bore who has no opinions of his own just those I cut and pastes from other peoples works?
L.G.M says.
“to judge someone purely by random postings usually in response to one of Daves comedy rants is suprising - I assumed you were better than that.”
By your comments you have judged the random postings by Mr David Samuels to be a comedy rant, yet state it is surprising to judge someone by their random postings. Is there not a touch of hypocrisy there L.G.M ?
Meanwhile, the real life story unfolding here is the position of those at Airedale Hospital who may be losing their jobs.
Little Green Man
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4:58pm Sun 6 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
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5:37pm Sun 6 Jan 13
Hinchingbrooke losses double Circle Health estimate
The first NHS hospital to be run by a private company has revealed losses in the firm's first six months in charge were almost double those forecast.
Circle Health took over management of Hinchingbrooke Hospital in Cambridgeshire in February.
The hospital's board has revealed its £4.1m loss was £2.2m more than it expected to make over the six-month period.
Circle said it would have to pay any deficit at the financial year's end.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-cam
bridgeshire-20087078
Graham Forsyth
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7:01pm Sun 6 Jan 13
The following waste of money would employ N.H.S staff for years.
19 November 2012
“Many NHS hospitals in England are paying over the odds for supplies, a snapshot investigation suggests.
The assessment by consultants Ernst & Young highlights big variations in the prices paid for a range of medical products.
The findings come despite long-standing concerns from MPs and the National Audit Office over wasteful procurement.
The Department of Health says it is developing a barcoding system to help hospitals negotiate better prices.
The NHS is coming under enormous pressure to find savings. But nearly two years after the National Audit Office (NAO) highlighted waste in procurement, this assessment suggests some hospitals are still getting poor deals on supplies.
In February last year the NAO concluded better procurement could save the health service half a billion pounds a year.
For this investigation, Ernst and Young looked at 10 NHS hospital trusts out of 166 - and found the prices paid for the same box of medical forceps ranged from £13 to £23.
For an identical box of blankets the lowest price was £47, the highest more than £120.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/health-2027196
8
24 September 2011
Launching the world’s biggest civilian information technology project, Mr Blair proclaimed a brave new world, with hospital admissions booked online and the indecipherable handwriting of doctors banished into the Luddite past.
‘The possibilities are enormous if we can get this right,’ he said. No mention of potential downsides. No discussions with the doctors for whom it was designed. And no surprise when the vainglorious venture turned — like so many of Labour’s spendthrift projects — into a disaster.
Four years after it should have been finished, we have spent £6.4 billion — or £300 for every household — on an incomplete patchwork of incompatible systems. The cash that bled out of Whitehall’s coffers is enough to pay 30,000 nurses for a decade, or build half a dozen new hospitals.
The House of Commons’ Public Accounts Committee issued its latest damning report last month. It revealed two companies were paid £1.8 billion for the project.
But one failed to deliver the products ordered, while the other, BT, is being paid £9 million to install systems for the NHS while charging £2 million for the same systems elsewhere.
The word ‘scandal’ is overused. This is, however, a true scandal.”
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2041280/How-longer-t
axpayers-tolerate-go
vernment-wasting-mon
ey.html
samuels david
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9:19pm Sun 6 Jan 13
My views are, if it’s right, it’s right!
A view I picked up when KTC was first formed and we all thought it was going to be the nation’s finest new authority, how little then did we realised the evil arrogance and ego of mankind.
If Little Green Man really knows me, as he says then probably he will realise I have known his true identity for many years as had many in Keighley.
What really saddens me is that if it is the person I sincerely think it is then it is of a man who had wasted his later life hating another.
Give me a call. Miggy has my number. I would wish to talk and renew a friendship I thought I once had.
David
samuels david
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10:13pm Sun 6 Jan 13
That the same mentality at the top of those who govern this country also is also of the same low calibre which rules KTC illustrates why this country is now designated as a possible ‘banana’ state.
The British press is principally controlled by foreign owners, so no truly free press, just an illusion.
The so-called commercial radio stations in this country are held together by companies controlled by offshore dummy hedge funds. etc.
Banks and the financial institutions are known to have the same sticky fingers as has some members of Parliament and local councillors.
The financial supercilious notions of KTC is akin to the Member of Parliament spending £80,000 on using a car and chauffeur when a first class ticket to and from his home to the Palace of Westminster would cost £5000.
Is it any wonder that political and local councillors are not trusted when money is sloshing around and the police seem to accept money, in addition to the police precepts, from our local parish council and yet .......
In local affairs Bradford City District Councillors may turn away but I can assure them that when the balloon goes up.....
David Samuels
jimmy k
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10:16pm Sun 6 Jan 13
you talk about job losses but when h samuels closed in keighley you managed to shoehorn in that thread that it was somehow something to do with the tc. when it was pointed out you that you were being insensitive when people had lost their jobs you spouted the usual rubbish about people bullying you.
after the first budget of the coalition and the chancellor kept all the pensioner benefits in (to help shore up the tory vote)you put on here what a good day it was ,when someone pointed out to you you were again being short sighted again the usual nonsense came out.if you don't get my point why do think these cuts have to happen?
when someone has the audacity to not fully agree with you on many occasions you have called them mentally deficient therefore causing offence to anyone who has friends/relatives who are mentally disabled.
you talk about free speech yet rail against anyone who doesn't want to talk about or god forbid agree with what you say.
you say many people agree with you but have to back your arguments up with made up pseudonyms on here (which was proved remember wizard 52?)
i have said on many occasions that i have never known anyone on ktc,i am not now nor ever been on ktc and i have never seen nor met you,however why let this get in the way of a good conspiracy?because lets face it david if anybody doesn't agree with you they must be one of your enemies eh?
no david he only time i have known you is through these pages and with these and other things you've said over the years i don't ever need to have met you to make up my own mind.
of course you'll reply to this with your usual accusations of lies(however all these things are on here)and no doubt you'll threaten me one way or another but i'm not bothered as i won't bother to answer any more to you as it's pretty obvious it's pointless however i will still use these pages as i won't be bullied off them.
p.s. how is everybody on the t-cakes should have currents debate?
Little Green Man
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10:26pm Sun 6 Jan 13
Little Green Man
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10:29pm Sun 6 Jan 13
samuels david
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12:20am Mon 7 Jan 13
Seemingly only about yourselves.
As I've said recently the general public are well aware where your loyalties lie.
You can huff and you can puff, but the truth of your actions will be remembered.
Finally jimmy k, where is there paper or electronic any evidence that I have told lies, put up, or shut up.
You and your cohorts are a disgrace to all those fighting for their jobs.
No replies please, as no response will be ever be undertaken by me to your childish, but evil tantrums as you obviously you have no idea or of what honest debate is about.
Shauny-Boy
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1:15am Mon 7 Jan 13
I would also like to wish everyone health,wealth and happiness in 2013 and beyond!
Shauny-Boy
Little Green Man
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6:26am Mon 7 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
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10:58am Mon 7 Jan 13
3 October 2012
Contracts for almost 400 NHS services, worth a quarter of billion pounds, were signed this week resulting in the "biggest act of privatisation ever seen in the NHS", Labour's health spokesman Andy Burnham has said.
In a briefing before his speech to the Labour party conference, Burnham said he had "evidence of accelerating privatisation" – citing a rash of examples across England which he said showed the government was committed to a "market in healthcare".
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/society/2012/o
ct/03/private-contra
cts-signed-nhs-priva
tisation
17 March 2011
NHS reforms will damage healthcare, deskill hospitals and deter blood donors, experts warn.
The "creeping privatisation" of the NHS will affect patient care, top doctors have warned, saying the government's planned shake up risks hospitals losing key services, critical research being jeopardised and public goodwill for blood donations disappearing as private firms are seen to profit from public funds.
Medical leaders fear the controversial switch to allow "any willing provider" – voluntary, public or private – to supply care services in the NHS will fragment the system. Driven by the need to save £20bn from NHS budgets, the health secretary, Andrew Lansley, plans to increase commercialisation and competition across the health service – with no part off limits.
https://www.bbts.org
.uk/news/latest_news
/_creeping_privatisa
tion_of_nhs_will_mea
n_loss_of_expertise_
say_top_doctors/
jen200337
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4:33pm Mon 7 Jan 13
I work in the NHS and have done for over 30 years, its a shambles and if the privatisation of laundry services is anything like the service provided where I work then they should be ashamed of themselves, I have seen badly stained sheets returned with with what one can only imagine, never happened when we had our own service and we didnt end up with laundry from every hospital in england either!
samuels david
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9:14pm Mon 7 Jan 13
One a Doctor, one a senior administrative officer, another a private secretary to senior management.
Yes the service is in severe crises, but overall my impression from these differing parts of the service is that privatization is not what is needed, it's just good management at basic level.
At present it is suggested politics, by both parties has ruined the service by creating insecurity for all branches of the service.
It is also suggested that so called ‘consultants’ called in by inexperience Chief Executives on rates of up to and over £15,000 per day to do the work of an manager is what kills initiative as rules altered one day are then altered another day by another ‘consultant’ on anothr £15,000 per day, this is adinfinitum, so obviously sucks the blood from the service.
From three differing viewpoints simplicity is that ‘consultants’ be banned as is privatization.
That Chief Executives are paid, directly on results and that all managers are on a one year rolling contract and if you are suggesting that the chaos you have experience in Airedale or in another hospital then the three strikes and out rules be used which must apply to all staff from kitchen porters down to Chief Executives and above all, public money is paid into the service at 1% plus the rate of inflation.
As my Doctor relative stated, this starter for ten should wake up the imbecilic Chief Executives, who really haven’t a clue what is going on their patch.
David Samuels
Little Green Man
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11:27pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
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7:47am Tue 8 Jan 13
Keighley News. 6 January 2013
“changes are necessary because of the major investment needed to keep the laundry operating effectively. “
If the investment had been in place the laundry service at Airedale would still be effective. I have posted on this item to show how Ernst & Young, assessment consultants, had noted the large variations of costs for a range of the same medical products. How much is this costing the N.H.S? If this was resolved how much of that saved money could be put back into keeping the facilities up to date?
Why, when there is an a obvious ineffective use of N.H.S money used in purchasing is this not addressed before they lay off staff in order to save money by not having to invest in the hospital's own facilities. And what, if any, money will be saved by privatising the laundry service?
This is a short sighted reaction to a long standing N.H.S problem of infective use of money, and as in most cases, it is the hard working employees who end up being made the scapegoat.
Graham Forsyth
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8:22am Tue 8 Jan 13
Millionaire who raised the price of widely-used drugs by 1,000% over two years says: ‘I don’t have to justify my profits to anyone’
Drugs companies making everyday medicines for the NHS are facing claims of profiteering after imposing huge price rises for commonly prescribed drugs.
The increases – some as high as 1,000 per cent in just two years – coincided with some of the firms involved earning massive profits.
One company boss said the NHS ‘doesn’t care what it costs’.
The medicines are not new innovative products developed by pharmaceutical companies after enormous investment in research and development.
Instead, they are unbranded so-called ‘generic’ drugs which have been available for many years and include commonly used antibiotics prescribed to millions of patients.
Last night, The Mail on Sunday investigation prompted the Department of Health to reveal it had launched a review of the price increases and to say that it was examining what action could be taken against manufacturers deemed to be making excess profits.
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
1295610/NHS-doesnt-c
are-cost-medicine-Dr
ugs-firms-accused-pr
ofiteering-raising-p
rices-ONE-THOUSAND-c
ent.html
Little Green Man
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10:11am Tue 8 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
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10:28am Tue 8 Jan 13
NHS trusts 'paying over the odds' for supplies
Monday 19th November 2012
“Price variation is "worsening" between NHS trusts, costing £500m a year.
An analysis published by Ernst & Young estimated price variations for 'everyday' supplies in the NHS could cost a further "unnecessary" £1bn over the next two years unless procurement processes are reformed.
Data from 10 NHS trusts show the same box of medical forceps is purchased for £13 in some areas with other trusts paying up to £23 for the same supplies.
Some NHS trusts have also been found to pay over twice (164%) the average price (£60) for essential items like warming blankets and £1,109 for knee implants when the average price paid stands at £787.
The findings come two years after the National Audit Office (NAO) and the Foundation Trust Network noted "significant" variations in the prices paid by different NHS trusts for the same products.
Ernst and Young claim cost-efficient buying across the NHS "has not improved", despite this warning.
In fact, it is said that the degree of variation has "worsened".
Across 11 'everyday' products reviewed in the report, the variation between the minimum and average price has increased from 18% to 20%.
Joe Stringer, partner at Ernst & Young, said a "lack of transparency" in the NHS market lies at the root of the problem.
"This is leaving trusts unable to make cost-efficient decisions about purchasing supplies," he said. “
http://www.managemen
tinpractice.com/arti
cle/29526/NHS_trusts
_%27paying_over_the_
odds%27_for_supplies
Graham Forsyth
says...
10:41am Tue 8 Jan 13
The NHS is being forced to spend an extra £44m a year on a single epilepsy drug, after a pharmaceutical firm increased the price almost 24-fold.
Epanutin capsules were costing the NHS just over £2m a year until Flynn Pharma, a British company, bought the rights to sell the anti-seizure medicine from Pfizer, repackaged it, and raised the price. Now the annual bill will be £46.6m.
The capsules are identical to those being sold before, even down to the ‘Epanutin’ markings on them. Only the packaging has changed. Now packs read ‘Phenytoin Sodium Flynn Hard Capsules’.
The extra money that will be spent on the drug could have paid for about 1,800 more nurses.
One doctor described the price increase as a “scandalous abuse of a monopoly position”.
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/health/health
news/9604683/Pharma-
firm-hikes-cost-of-e
pilepsy-drug-24-time
s.html
Little Green Man
says...
10:44am Tue 8 Jan 13
samuels david
says...
12:07pm Tue 8 Jan 13
These facts are scorned, in my view, by a person of questionable intelligence on the subject and remembering it must have been noticed the information you reprinted has not been rejected by Airedale Hospital or any major authority who deals with such valued information.
The valid points you raised, regarding investing procedures I suggest only reinforces my own comments.
The staff in Airedale are being put on the heap, probably at the instigation of an outside £15,000 ‘consultant’ who needs to justify the existence of the highly paid job.
As my senior administrative officer relative in the South of England tells me.
‘If the public knew of the millions of public money pounds wasted by these cretinous ‘consultants’ each year then most NHS Chief Executives would be out of a job, but then unfortunately would then themselves become ‘consultants’.
Mr Forsyth, please keep on revealing these staggering figures of waste, as you do for Keighley people on the KTC waste.
David Samuels
Little Green Man
says...
12:51pm Tue 8 Jan 13
jimmy k
says...
4:25pm Tue 8 Jan 13
Little Green Man
says...
4:38pm Tue 8 Jan 13
Little Green Man
says...
4:47pm Tue 8 Jan 13
jimmy k
says...
6:02pm Tue 8 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
says...
6:05pm Tue 8 Jan 13
“There's a word for repetitive posting of links to other articles - spam! Which brings us legitimately back to food, spam fritters anyone? “
Spamming is defined in wikipedia as follows.
“Spam is the use of electronic messaging systems to send unsolicited bulk messages, especially advertising, indiscriminately. While the most widely recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar abuses in other media.”
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Spam_%28ele
ctronic%29
By Free Online Dictionary.
Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.
tr.v. spammed, spam·ming, spams
1. To send unsolicited e-mail to.
2. To send (a message) indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups.
http://www.thefreedi
ctionary.com/spammin
g
It would appear L.G.M that your fixation with food has effected your outlook on life.
Little Green Man
says...
6:18pm Tue 8 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
says...
6:18pm Tue 8 Jan 13
“The NHS in England spent £313.9m on management consultants in the past financial year, figures released by the Government indicate.
The cost, which includes advice from architects, lawyers and surveyors, is almost the same as the amount spent on skin and lung cancer services combined.
Dr Peter Carter, chief executive of the Royal College of Nursing, said: "It is extremely difficult to see how spending more than £313m on consultancy services in one year can be justified."
http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/life-style/
health-and-families/
health-news/consulta
nts-cost-nhs-313m-20
58054.html
Health trusts spend £300m on private consultants. 20 August 2010
“Experts have questioned whether the government gets "any value at all" from the private sector. Last year a report by McKinsey & Company proposed sacking 10% of NHS staff – some 137,000 people – to help achieve planned £20bn efficiency savings in the health service, and warned that GP time "lost to tea breaks" should be reduced as part of a scheme to improve "GP productivity" to the tune of £400m.
Peter West, a health economist and commentator, said there was "very little to commend work". "They tell hospitals to sack people and close beds to save money without really thinking through the consequences. I mean, where's the work identifying old people who could get community care nurses to come and visit them before they get into hospital. That would be valuable work but we never get them to do that."
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/uk/2010/aug/20
/health-trusts-priva
te-consultants
samuels david
says...
6:40pm Tue 8 Jan 13
If it’s true that the comedy act, who are only involved with beers and stand pies and not the serious concerns of local importance are not to be with us for a while to amuse the Keighley public with their KTC gobble-de-gook language, how do we impart the revelations of the impending financial crises many foresee emerging during the comedy breaks they provide.
Could you send the KTC a Freedom Of Information Act asking these Councillor to stay at least till the next elections.
David Samuels (In panic and totally devastated of the news of such a departure.)
Stevo54
says...
6:40pm Tue 8 Jan 13
Spam fritters I can live without as growing up with four always hungry lads in the house it was for my mam a good way to fill us up, we used to get them with beans and chips.
Graham Forsyth
says...
7:39pm Tue 8 Jan 13
13 November 2012
“The NHS is "sleepwalking" into a nursing crisis with thousands of frontline posts lost and training positions axed, the Government is warned today.
The Royal College of Nursing (RCN) said that despite the Coalition's promise to protect frontline staff from cuts the NHS workforce has fallen by almost 21,000 since the Coalition Government came to power. This includes a loss of more than 6,000 qualified nursing posts – from a total of 312,000 nursing posts in the NHS.
The RCN's report also warns that parts of the health service face the prospect of nursing shortages within three years as thousands of training posts are slashed, meaning trusts will have to recruit from overseas.
Patient safety will be seriously undermined by falling numbers of nurses, with the RCN's chief executive warning that standards of care "are going to get a lot worse".
The nursing union has been tracking job cuts since the Coalition came to power in May 2010. It has found that about 1,000 posts are being earmarked as "at risk" by NHS trusts every month as they try to find savings of £20bn during this parliament.”
http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/life-style/
health-and-families/
health-news/fears-fo
r-patient-safety-as-
60000-nhs-jobs-face-
the-axe-8307270.html
Little Green Man
says...
7:55pm Tue 8 Jan 13
samuels david
says...
8:59pm Tue 8 Jan 13
I respect your views on the massive cuts of ‘front line’ staff of course, but I suggest that the back room staff, cleaners, porters, security, drivers etc, the lower paid staff on min wages are the people not mentioned by the media who are easy pray to ‘Privatise’ as has been demonstrated many times.
The profits of course are taken out of the economic services and placed in Banks abroad if possible.
Every service, BT, gas, electricity, water rail etc, in this country that has been privatised has seen, without exception, year on rises and it must be said, however uncomfortable it may be, but no political party has put a stop to these price rises.
More people than ever are languishing in prison when they should be having treatment in mental hospitals (Closed to save money) .
These are ever increasing scandals no political guru wishes to touch with a barge pole.
All large major financial and businesses, world-wide admittedly, have been shown to be avoiding tax, pleanty of talk, no action!
Now, as been rightly said on this site, I am not smart enough possibly, due to my known lack of formal education as has been reported by an ‘admirer’ of mine this evening, one who is obviously cleverer by far than I am, for me to even understand simple matters of commerce as practiced by his friends in KTC. (not that it matters one jot in the scheme of things) and yet with his own implied skills, he still seemingly, does not wish to help those less fortunate’s, those who are being abused by his friends in power.
Carry on Mr Forsyth, justice will out, as for instance, KTC and those others who suffer because of those who I believe have no thought for other.
The loud and vociferous joy of those selfish people will of course rebound, as it always has done, (what goes round etc) and in ‘spite’, (use the word anyway you wish) silence can’t be enforced. (Note China!)
David Samuels
samuels david
says...
9:15pm Tue 8 Jan 13
I respect your views on the massive cuts of ‘front line’ staff of course, however I suggest that the back room staff, cleaners, porters, security, drivers etc, the lower paid staff on min wages are the people not mentioned by the media who are easy prey to be ‘Privatised’ as has been demonstrated many times and the profits of course are taken out of the economic services and placed in Banks abroad if possible.
Every service, BT, gas, electricity, water rail etc, in this country that has been privatised has seen, without exception, year on rises and it must be said, however uncomfortable it may be, but no political party has put a stop to these price rises.
More people than ever are languishing in prison when they should be having treatment in mental hospitals (Closed to save money) .
These are ever increasing scandals no political guru wishes to touch with a barge pole. Such as
the large major financial and businesses, world-wide admittedly, who have been shown to be avoiding tax, plenty of talk, no action!
Now, as been rightly said on this site, I am not smart enough possibly, due to my known lack of formal education, as has been reported by an ‘admirer’ of mine this evening, one who is obviously cleverer by far than I am, for me to even understand simple matters of commerce as practiced by his friends in KTC.(not that it matters one jot in the scheme of things) and yet with his own implied skills, he still seemingly, does not wish to help those less fortunate’s, those who are being abused by his friends in power.
Carry on Mr Forsyth, justice will out, as for instance, KTC and those others who suffer because of those who I believe have no thought for other.
The loud and vociferous joy of those selfish people enjoying the discomfort of the less well off will of course rebound, as it always has done, (what goes round etc) and in ‘spite’ (use the word anyway you wish) the use of, silence can’t be enforced. (Note China!)
David Samuels
Little Green Man
says...
11:14pm Tue 8 Jan 13
Little Green Man
says...
11:14pm Tue 8 Jan 13
samuels david
says...
11:51pm Tue 8 Jan 13
I will now name and shame you.
You are the HONEY MONSTER!
Now go to sleep little boy and let’s not hear any more tonight.
Enjoy your trip and hurry back soon, your fans will miss you at KTC. xxx
David Samuels
Little Green Man
says...
12:03am Wed 9 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
says...
9:55am Wed 9 Jan 13
“Graham will never guess either not unless its printed in the Telegraph or the Mail first so he can copy it!”
A touch of vanity appears to be showing there L.G.M, what makes you think I have any interest in who you are..Whom you are as a person may remain unknown, what you are as person is possible to deduce from your own actions, and you recent posting in which you have said:
3:26pm Sun 6 Jan 13
“This site is the cover Graham, the book is real life and to judge someone purely by random postings usually in response to one of Daves comedy rants is suprising -”
What you suggest are random postings have the appearance of being anything but random, they come across as systematic and aimed primarily at Mr David Samuels. Further, it appears not to matters to you what the subject is and how serious, your aim seems is only to target Mr Samuels and reduce what is trying to be said to trivia. Thus, L.G.M, the book of real life does appear to be made up of the same quality as the postings.
I hope you enjoy your trip to the East, they do say wisdom can be found there.
samuels david
says...
10:45am Wed 9 Jan 13
The benefit of these debates should be noted for the seriousness with which I know, I and many members of the public require.
Many thanks once again from a Keighley concerned precept payer.
David Samuels
Little Green Man
says...
11:34am Wed 9 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
says...
12:01pm Wed 9 Jan 13
11:34am Wed 9 Jan 13
"If Dave didn't persist in making false assumptions, false allegations and insults there wouldn't be a problem. I'm suprised at you Graham by responding you have yet again turned this thread away from the real story!"
Sorry L.G.M the public are more discerning. Your postings in relation to this issue of those losing their jobs at Airedale Hospital are now a matter of record, and I give the public enough credit to be able to see just who has been turning this thread away from the real story.
So, back to what both Mr Samuels and I have been posting in support of those losing their jobs, and the exposing of how the coalition is dealing with the N.H.S.
27 August 2010
The health secretary, Andrew Lansley, has let slip that the government is planning to scrap NHS Direct, the hugely popular medical telephone helpline.
While touring Basingstoke and North Hampshire hospital on Thursday, he revealed that the phone service – which this year cost £123m to run – is to be axed.
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2010/
aug/27/nhs-direct-he
alth-phone-service
Little Green Man
says...
1:04pm Wed 9 Jan 13
samuels david
says...
4:25pm Wed 9 Jan 13
This ritual with or without my wife is amazing.
My wife now refuses to stay with me when shopping in the various supermarkets, as people stop me and make vile and derogatory remakes concerning KTC and some of the well-known members of the hierarchy.
Such is my faith in this system of analyzing the true feelings regarding the Civic Centre and the policy of silence on all financial matters that I have asked, by email, the Keighley Town Clerk, the former and present editors of the Keighley News, if they would sample, incognito of course. the people of Keighley on their view of Keighley Town Council in these matters.
The courtesy of a reply has not yet ever been received.
David Samuels
samuels david
says...
4:35pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Mr Forsyth, your friend LGM has done it again.
He has once again diverted the issue on the Airedale Hospital Staff problems and his pride and joy, the KTC.
He is devilishly good at his job at diverting the financial issues away from KTC.
Marks out ten. 4 because I had just notice it.
The hierarchy will not be pleased with him on this.
David Samuels
Little Green Man
says...
5:04pm Wed 9 Jan 13
dennisnilsen
says...
6:16pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Stevo54
says...
6:39pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Oh and he has been an elected member of a couple of institutions in the past but even when disagreeing with some motion or other never spat his dummy out and resigned because he couldn't get his own way.
Graham Forsyth
says...
6:56pm Wed 9 Jan 13
“Graham, if you bothered to read these posts instead of simply copying them you would see every single one of my posts referring to Dave is in response to one of his lies, accusations or insults - you're as bad as he is just seeing what you want to and ignoring the facts! “
The facts I am looking at L.G.M are the ones relating to those hard working and unfortunate people who will loose their jobs at Airedale Hospital, due to the axing taking place by the coalition government against the N.H.S.
You however, L.G.M have seen fit, yet again, to turn an important and informative news item, which is open for comment, into another mocking of Mr Samuels. That is also a fact I am not ignoring, and it is a fact that the public cannot ignore as it is so blatantly obvious.
However, I hope you enjoy your cocktails while 6,000 miles away, because those closer to home facing unemployment through no fault of their own cannot afford that luxury.
Coming back to the truth and what this news item is all about, here are more facts that help to show how the N.H.S and it's employees are being dealt with by the coalition.
13.November 2012.
The RCN’s report reveals 28,521 posts have been dumped over the 30 months the Government has been in power – more than 30 a day.
The shocking figures are in a report published today which shows 61,000 jobs are at risk or have already been cut since May 2010.
Ministers last night insisted the NHS was not in turmoil.
But the Royal College of Nursing, which wrote the report, warned the service is “sleepwalking into crisis”.
Britain’s top nurse Peter Carter said: “The Government’s consistent rhetoric has been that frontline posts and services are being protected.
"Sadly, that is simply not the case.”
Shadow Health Secretary Andy Burnham added: “The truth is that this Government has de-stabilised the NHS with a re-organisation nobody wanted and two years of real-terms spending cuts.
"It has proved toxic for the NHS and left it in a critical condition.”
The RCN’s Frontline First report reveals 28,521 posts have been dumped over the 30 months the Government has been in power – more than 30 a day.
It warns another 32,755 nurses, midwives, health visitors, support and admin staff are now at risk.
http://www.mirror.co
.uk/news/uk-news/30-
nhs-jobs-axed-every-
1433090
samuels david
says...
7:37pm Wed 9 Jan 13
I resigned from KTC solely because I realised that was being proposed, the Civic Centre, was ludicrous with the huge wave of an economic crisis sweeping across the world.
I said then and continue to object.
As it been noted by your beer swilling, stand pie eating, cohort, jimmy k, I’m not very clever, which is a crime that I admit too.
However, even an idiot could tell that this was not the most prestigious moment to commit 37.000 Keighley precept payers to debts which would total millions of pounds and create an ever increasing rise in local precepts.
My personal thoughts are that if it isn’t right, don’t stay around. If my vehicle is not road worthy I don’t drive it, would you?
I am known to many people, who believe it or not trust me enough to ask questions regarding the KTC and other matters, as my wife would testify to.
These people wouldn’t care to become publically involved with what they unfortunately see as difficulties in asking questions on financial matters with the Council.
I am really overjoyed your father walks around town, and long may he continue to enjoy such walks.
I suggest if he is not interested in KTC and such issues then he is entirely within his rights to ignore those issues, but by the same token I am also entitled to my views that KTC should publish where my money is being spent and on what and question if there are any sticky fingers in the KTC pie.
Probably not, but who knows, or cares. I do care!
It’s my right to be
concerned. Yours also if you wish, but please don’t try to silence those of us who realise that many people are on a tight budget, and exist on food parcels and meals from such institutions as the Salvation Army.
Question: China, where you'r heading back to, is that the wonderful land of free thinkers?
David Samuels
Little Green Man
says...
8:03pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Dave also failed to stay on topic in his last post too!
Little Green Man
says...
8:09pm Wed 9 Jan 13
jimmy k
says...
8:18pm Wed 9 Jan 13
jimmy k
says...
8:21pm Wed 9 Jan 13
samuels david wrote:i wonder why?
Mr Forsyth, may I suggest your friend, Little Green Man, and without him having another hissy fit, walks around Keighley, as I do, even at my age, on a daily basis. This ritual with or without my wife is amazing. My wife now refuses to stay with me when shopping in the various supermarkets, as people stop me and make vile and derogatory remakes concerning KTC and some of the well-known members of the hierarchy. Such is my faith in this system of analyzing the true feelings regarding the Civic Centre and the policy of silence on all financial matters that I have asked, by email, the Keighley Town Clerk, the former and present editors of the Keighley News, if they would sample, incognito of course. the people of Keighley on their view of Keighley Town Council in these matters. The courtesy of a reply has not yet ever been received. David Samuels
samuels david
says...
8:46pm Wed 9 Jan 13
7.55 Tue 8.Jan2023.
I quote your words my friend ‘your just not smart enough what with your lack of formal education’ Your words my friend! I did however admit that you were right.
No go to bed and dream of you Far Eastern holiday.
KTC no doubt will dragoon another communication expert in to beat up on me, an uneducated misguided free thinker of differing opinions who loves to promotes truth and reality. xxx (Ps: I really do know who you are!) More kisses?
samuels david
says...
9:01pm Wed 9 Jan 13
With over 70.billion people in the world not one of these people has ever been able to escape the truth,
A Time Team Fact.
(I blown you enough kisses this evening!)
.
Little Green Man
says...
9:03pm Wed 9 Jan 13
jimmy k
says...
9:08pm Wed 9 Jan 13
samuels david wrote:i'm afraid lgm's right dave,this is a quote that is from his post also he's the one on a far east holiday not me but.lgm i won't hold my breath for that apology.
jimmy k, you do really need to lie down, stress is causing you memory lost amongst other problems the public is noticing regarding your postings. (sorry about using your favourite word 'lie') take a longer holiday, a really long holiday so the words of truth we place on the site will not become contaminated by your distortions. 7.55 Tue 8.Jan2023. I quote your words my friend ‘your just not smart enough what with your lack of formal education’ Your words my friend! I did however admit that you were right. No go to bed and dream of you Far Eastern holiday. KTC no doubt will dragoon another communication expert in to beat up on me, an uneducated misguided free thinker of differing opinions who loves to promotes truth and reality. xxx (Ps: I really do know who you are!) More kisses?
jimmy k
says...
9:13pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Little Green Man
says...
9:26pm Wed 9 Jan 13
jimmy k
says...
9:31pm Wed 9 Jan 13
samuels david
says...
9:59pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Well obviously you’ll have no trouble remembering this from your bible which you’ll be reading daily and with great clarity and evangelical reverence.
Forget the bit where it says that you must basically try to look after others in the world because that doesn’t apply to you of course.
How about the following bit of information, “an eye for an eye.’
Now that’s more up my street, cause I can’t be bullied at my age.
A guy called Hitler once tried it and I survived him in 1939 so what makes you think you can frighten me, an old man at my age.
Go and pull legs off frogs or cats if that is what turns you on.
Little Green Man
says...
11:07pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
says...
8:20am Thu 10 Jan 13
Returning back to this important topic of staffing in the N.H.S..
November 2012
“Staffing problems in NHS hospitals are leading to patients receiving poor care and being exposed to danger from errors with their medication, the health service regulator warns in a report published on Friday that doctors' and nurses' leaders claim shows that cost-cutting is being put ahead of patients' health and welfare.
Inspections of hospitals show that a lack of staff, especially those with the right skills, is a key reason why one in 10 patients are denied respect and dignity, 15% are not fed properly and 20% have their care and welfare neglected, according to the Care Quality Commission (CQC).”
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/society/2012/n
ov/23/nhs-cost-cutti
ng-patients-welfare
Little Green Man
says...
8:53am Thu 10 Jan 13
Graham Forsyth
says...
9:34am Thu 10 Jan 13
Back on topic.
May 2011
“The row over NHS reform has intensified, with Conservative backbenchers expressing anger that their coalition partners are being given too much ground.
This follows weeks of anger at the pause in the legislation for the so-called listening exercise, and at increased Liberal Democrat vociferousness on the subject of NHS reform. Tim Montgomerie tweeted last week that Tories were referring to the Lib Dems as "yellow b-----ds".”
http://www.newstates
man.com/blogs/the-st
aggers/2011/05/red-l
ines-reform-clegg-bi
ll
Little Green Man
says...
11:27am Thu 10 Jan 13
Every time you respond to my posts you take the subject off topic, you two both as bad!
Graham Forsyth
says...
12:25pm Thu 10 Jan 13
“You got it wrong Graham, I didn't fail to keep it on topic. “
30 postings which hardly ever mention the problem of those losing their jobs at Airedale Hospital cannot be said to not have gone off topic by any stretch of the imagination, except possibly yours. If one goes by your postings then one could be forgiven for thinking your topic of discussion is food and Mr Samuels, which would then raise the question as to why you may be doing this, and how does this help those losing their jobs?
L.G.M says.
“a 2 year old cut and paste of an article on NHS reform is hardly relevant to the people whos job are at risk is it? “
On the contrary L.G.M. If you had placed your attention on the bigger picture taking place within the N.H.S, and had not been so fixated on food and Mr Samuels, you would have seen that the axing of the laundry jobs at Airedale Hospital is connected with the bigger picture of the axing of the N.H.S throughout all of it's services.
The logic behind the cut and pasting is to try and help such as yourself to see the bigger picture, and to provide the source of the information. Unfortunately, it appears you are more interested in food and possibly culinary sauce rather than information and it's source.
Back on topic.
“ Repeated government denials about NHS privatisation don’t stand up to scrutiny. In response to widespread criticism of the proposed reforms of the NHS in England, the health secretary, Andrew Lansley, the prime minister, David Cameron, the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, and the chancellor of the exchequer, George Osborne, have repeatedly claimed that there will be no privatisation of the NHS in England. The Department of Health website even states that “Health Minsters have said they will never privatise the NHS” (http://bit.ly/mtd8i
F). However, these claims and promises fail to acknowledge the evidence that privatisation is an inevitable consequence of many of the policies contained in the Health and Social Care Bill.
The meaning of privatisation is complex, covering a range of ideas in law, politics, economics, and philosophy. However, the World Health Organization has defined privatisation in healthcare as “a process in which non-governmental actors become increasingly involved in the financing and/or provision of healthcare services” (J Muschell, Technical Briefing Note on Privatization in Health, 1995, WHO/TFHE/TBN/95.1).
So the government’s attempt to deny privatisation of the NHS by claiming that NHS services will remain publicly funded and free at the point of delivery does not escape the WHO definition if services are delivered by non-governmental actors, such as private and third sector (voluntary and community) organisations. This is clearly a stated objective of the reforms.”
http://www.nhsca.org
.uk/docs/cliveprivat
e.pdf
jimmy k
says...
2:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Little Green Man
says...
4:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13
I'll say again, I didn't fail to keep it on topic - whats difficult to understand Graham? Maybe it's a bit too subtle for you...
When you and Dave cease trying to impose your dictatorship over what can and cannot be posted I might think about joining in, but then again...
Graham Forsyth
says...
8:35pm Thu 10 Jan 13
4:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13
"There you go again, every time you bring up the subject of my posts you give me good reason to respond thereby keeping us off topic - your fault I'm afraid!
I'll say again, I didn't fail to keep it on topic - whats difficult to understand Graham? Maybe it's a bit too subtle for you..."
Nothing subtle about it L.G.M, your 30 postings hardly touched upon the news item, and the clue to the news item is in it's title, which I copy and paste here for you attention.
“Staff ‘shattered’ by jobs threat at laundry service.”
Nothing in this article covers scones, free scraps, or remarks on Mr Samuels, therefore to post on scones, free scrapes, and Mr Samuels is to go off topic. No matter how much you deny you went off topic, the evidence is in your off topic postings which are now a matter of record.
L.G.M, to help you post something that is related to the N.H.S and which also includes food,which appears to be your field of interest and expertise, I have copied and pasted the following which you may find interesting
4th February 2010
“A review into the quality of hospital food in the district has been called for tonight by members of Bradford Council’s health improvement committee.
The call came during a discussion into what is being done to tackle obesity in the district when the committee met in City Hall this evening.
Committee member Councillor Doreen Lee (Labour, Keighley East) said patients in hospitals were being denied the chance to eat healthily because of the “atrocious” quality of food, particularly at Airedale Hospital, near Steeton.
Coun Lee said: “Having spent a great deal of time in hospital over the last year due to ill health I think more focus should be made on hospital food – it is anything but healthy. The food is never what you order, it is cold and there is nothing suitable for patients who need a halal option – it is awful, horrendous.
“It is not the fault of the staff, it is because the food comes from Wales frozen and is warmed up in the hospital and again on the ward.”
Dr Catherine Heffernan, a consultant in public health with NHS Bradford and Airedale, agreed the quality was horrendous.”
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L.G.M, your opinion of the following would be appreciated.
Do you think that in-house catering is better than transporting food all the way from Wales?
What nutritional foods would you recommend for those convalescing?
What concerns, if any, have you on the reheating of food on wards?
Little Green Man
says...
8:44pm Thu 10 Jan 13
mikeod says...
12:53pm Thu 3 Jan 13
Dozy decision.