Inflation fall welcomed by Keighley MP

Keighley News: Kris Hopkins MP Kris Hopkins MP

Keighley’s MP has welcomed news inflation in the UK fell to two per cent last month, its lowest since November 2009.

Speaking from Westminster, Housing Minister Kris Hopkins said: “This is certainly positive news and underlines once again the government’s unceasing efforts to drag the economy out of the mire it was left in under Labour are paying off.

“But there remains a very long way to go to fully recover from what was the worst recession in a century.

“We must remain wedded to the long-term economic plan laid down by the Prime Minister of reducing the deficit, creating jobs, cutting taxes, giving young people the skills they need to get on and fixing the welfare system so that it pays to work.”

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12:06pm Sat 25 Jan 14

G_Firth says...

Quote “We must remain wedded to the long-term economic plan laid down by the Prime Minister of reducing the deficit, creating jobs, cutting taxes, giving young people the skills they need to get on and fixing the welfare system so that it pays to work.”

Mr Hopkins should take a little more time actually in his constituency to see the reality of what is going on than feathering his career politician nest in the bar at the Commons.
Only just recently 173 jobs were lost in the Keighley area and even more will be before the next election as austerity bites even more.
Cutting taxes is one thing but when it is only beneficial for the top 5% whom really don't need the cut, and gives zero change to those whom are topped up with working tax credits, because their take home pay is more so their working tax credit is cut, something is seriously wrong in the ethics of this.
As for giving young people the skills they need to get on in Keighley is a total joke and is just a numbers playing tactic on the unemployment statistics.
We need proper training programs in Keighley that actual do give not only the young but people of all ages new skills and trades, not just how to fill in an application form, create a CV and conduct one self in an interview.
Fixing the welfare system so it pays to work. What planet is Mr Hopkins actually on?
When will they get it that you can only truly fix the welfare system, when there are the jobs out there to actually get people of the welfare system, and the open door policy with the EU is about as useful as using a sieve in the rain as an umbrella in helping getting the people of Keighley back to work.
Just remember Mr Hopkins voted for the Bedroom tax in all the votes that have taken place. His initial reasoning was that it was to free up social housing stock for people whom in need of larger homes or were on the waiting list. He neglected to note that there is an obscene shortage of 1 and 2 bedroom social housing properties in not only Keighley but the whole nation.
This is the guy that campaigned against wind turbines yet gave the nod to new ones at Denholme.
This is the guy that wants us to build on green belt land when there is more than enough brown belt yet to build on then switches tack to point to building over 5000 homes on Canal Road.
Mr Hopkins not only has the vast majority of people in Keighley woken up to you but also that trend is now spreading to Ilkley as well.
Come 2015 the people of Ilkley and Keighley will have their chance to actually use their voice and vote for a party that will not only put the needs of the nation first but also the people all ages, races and creeds of Keighley and Ilkley first
Quote “We must remain wedded to the long-term economic plan laid down by the Prime Minister of reducing the deficit, creating jobs, cutting taxes, giving young people the skills they need to get on and fixing the welfare system so that it pays to work.” Mr Hopkins should take a little more time actually in his constituency to see the reality of what is going on than feathering his career politician nest in the bar at the Commons. Only just recently 173 jobs were lost in the Keighley area and even more will be before the next election as austerity bites even more. Cutting taxes is one thing but when it is only beneficial for the top 5% whom really don't need the cut, and gives zero change to those whom are topped up with working tax credits, because their take home pay is more so their working tax credit is cut, something is seriously wrong in the ethics of this. As for giving young people the skills they need to get on in Keighley is a total joke and is just a numbers playing tactic on the unemployment statistics. We need proper training programs in Keighley that actual do give not only the young but people of all ages new skills and trades, not just how to fill in an application form, create a CV and conduct one self in an interview. Fixing the welfare system so it pays to work. What planet is Mr Hopkins actually on? When will they get it that you can only truly fix the welfare system, when there are the jobs out there to actually get people of the welfare system, and the open door policy with the EU is about as useful as using a sieve in the rain as an umbrella in helping getting the people of Keighley back to work. Just remember Mr Hopkins voted for the Bedroom tax in all the votes that have taken place. His initial reasoning was that it was to free up social housing stock for people whom in need of larger homes or were on the waiting list. He neglected to note that there is an obscene shortage of 1 and 2 bedroom social housing properties in not only Keighley but the whole nation. This is the guy that campaigned against wind turbines yet gave the nod to new ones at Denholme. This is the guy that wants us to build on green belt land when there is more than enough brown belt yet to build on then switches tack to point to building over 5000 homes on Canal Road. Mr Hopkins not only has the vast majority of people in Keighley woken up to you but also that trend is now spreading to Ilkley as well. Come 2015 the people of Ilkley and Keighley will have their chance to actually use their voice and vote for a party that will not only put the needs of the nation first but also the people all ages, races and creeds of Keighley and Ilkley first G_Firth

2:26pm Sat 25 Jan 14

pjl20 says...

Mr Hopkins MP may welcome the present 2% fall in inflation. But the plans announced back in 2010, just prior to the general election, by his Conservative party have not been achieved, not by a long way.

Have a look back, Mr Hopkins at those grandiose targets set by David Cameron. When elected and appointed as PM, he made these commitments, he has since failed to deliver on any of these.

The town of Keighley remains deeply submerged in the recession, despite signs of a slight recovery in London and the S-E.

The reduction in the official unemployment figures are most likely to be due to people going on to zero hours contracts in their new employment and off the figures in consequence.

Does anyone, except the odd 'High Tory,' accept any of this government dogma from our constituency MP?
Mr Hopkins MP may welcome the present 2% fall in inflation. But the plans announced back in 2010, just prior to the general election, by his Conservative party have not been achieved, not by a long way. Have a look back, Mr Hopkins at those grandiose targets set by David Cameron. When elected and appointed as PM, he made these commitments, he has since failed to deliver on any of these. The town of Keighley remains deeply submerged in the recession, despite signs of a slight recovery in London and the S-E. The reduction in the official unemployment figures are most likely to be due to people going on to zero hours contracts in their new employment and off the figures in consequence. Does anyone, except the odd 'High Tory,' accept any of this government dogma from our constituency MP? pjl20

12:00pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Katiery says...

I think the majority of people in Keighley are aware of Mr Hopkins' ladder climbing, something he is achieving only by ignoring the fact that he represents a constituency which has many problems CAUSED by the Con/Dem coalition.

He is happy to 'welcome' every statement made by the Conservative Party but is rarely seen actually doing anything in Keighley and Ilkley. The much massaged figures look good but lie. Zero hours contracts mean people are taken off the unemployment register but rarely earn enough to manage, sanctions which are handed out like sweeties, also mean that the numbers game can be played to show incorrect figures.

Maybe if Mr Hopkins actually spent some of his time talking to the people he was elected to represent, he would stop doing these ridiculous photocalls which do him no favours at all.
I think the majority of people in Keighley are aware of Mr Hopkins' ladder climbing, something he is achieving only by ignoring the fact that he represents a constituency which has many problems CAUSED by the Con/Dem coalition. He is happy to 'welcome' every statement made by the Conservative Party but is rarely seen actually doing anything in Keighley and Ilkley. The much massaged figures look good but lie. Zero hours contracts mean people are taken off the unemployment register but rarely earn enough to manage, sanctions which are handed out like sweeties, also mean that the numbers game can be played to show incorrect figures. Maybe if Mr Hopkins actually spent some of his time talking to the people he was elected to represent, he would stop doing these ridiculous photocalls which do him no favours at all. Katiery

7:43am Mon 27 Jan 14

Little Green Man says...

Does this guy have a single thought of his own in his head?
Does this guy have a single thought of his own in his head? Little Green Man

10:06am Mon 27 Jan 14

Katiery says...

No. Not a one. He just repeats the usual Tory rubbish about it all being the fault of the Labour Party, rather than the fault of the banks that we hit a recession. Words like 'the poor' and 'so it pays to work' are endlessly spouted to try to blame those who cannot get a job rather than the greedy high earners who dodge taxes and send the jobs to foreign countries. It doesn't 'pay to work' in most cases with zero hours contracts and low wages.
Perhaps he forgot that only M.P.'s were given an £11,000 payrise.
No. Not a one. He just repeats the usual Tory rubbish about it all being the fault of the Labour Party, rather than the fault of the banks that we hit a recession. Words like 'the poor' and 'so it pays to work' are endlessly spouted to try to blame those who cannot get a job rather than the greedy high earners who dodge taxes and send the jobs to foreign countries. It doesn't 'pay to work' in most cases with zero hours contracts and low wages. Perhaps he forgot that only M.P.'s were given an £11,000 payrise. Katiery

7:59pm Tue 28 Jan 14

jimmy k says...

as ive previously said he won't get in next time our friend on here will split the tory vote thereby letting labour in via the backdoor.i dothink its rather funny though hes housing minister responsible for building things,he couldn't manager to put anything in that big hole in bradford when he was in charge there.
as ive previously said he won't get in next time our friend on here will split the tory vote thereby letting labour in via the backdoor.i dothink its rather funny though hes housing minister responsible for building things,he couldn't manager to put anything in that big hole in bradford when he was in charge there. jimmy k

2:11pm Wed 29 Jan 14

G_Firth says...

jimmy k wrote:
as ive previously said he won't get in next time our friend on here will split the tory vote thereby letting labour in via the backdoor.i dothink its rather funny though hes housing minister responsible for building things,he couldn't manager to put anything in that big hole in bradford when he was in charge there.
I wouldn't be to sure about Labour getting the seat with their career politician candidate they have in place from Selby, plus don't forget that both Labour and Lib Dems think that people are not capable of making up their own minds on matters of national importance.
Do I think Mr Hopkins (Conservative) will return his seat?
No I don't think he will, that is if he is actually going to re-stand for it as there are whispers he's got eyes on the Malton and Pickering seat.
Do I think Labour will take the seat?
Again I don't think he will for the reasons I've already outlined with the added fact that can anyone remember his name without thinking really hard about it.
Do I think the Lib Dems will take the seat?
Erm do they actually have a candidate that's daft enough to lose the deposit.
Do I think Mr Latham (UK Independence Party) will take the seat?
A very strong possibility with the raise in their party's popularity in both Keighley and Ilkley, not forgetting nationally as well.

jimmy k's quote that the Tory vote would be split is a certainty but what he's neglecting is the split in the Labour vote as well as the never voted before vote also are a factor to be aware of.

But lets be honest here for a moment we all know that the May elections are a make or brake for all the political party's and a clearer view of the outcome in 2015 would be know then.

We know for a fact that if Lib Dems fail to return more than 2 EU seats that Clegg will be gone, we also know that if the Tories get less than 10 that Cameron to would be on very weak ground, as would Miliband should they get less than 30% of the vote with Mr Balls snapping at his heals and lets not forget Mr Farage as well he to is also at risk if they come any lower than second place.

So are the 2014 elections important ?
Yes very even more so than the 2015 ones I dare say
[quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: as ive previously said he won't get in next time our friend on here will split the tory vote thereby letting labour in via the backdoor.i dothink its rather funny though hes housing minister responsible for building things,he couldn't manager to put anything in that big hole in bradford when he was in charge there.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be to sure about Labour getting the seat with their career politician candidate they have in place from Selby, plus don't forget that both Labour and Lib Dems think that people are not capable of making up their own minds on matters of national importance. Do I think Mr Hopkins (Conservative) will return his seat? No I don't think he will, that is if he is actually going to re-stand for it as there are whispers he's got eyes on the Malton and Pickering seat. Do I think Labour will take the seat? Again I don't think he will for the reasons I've already outlined with the added fact that can anyone remember his name without thinking really hard about it. Do I think the Lib Dems will take the seat? Erm do they actually have a candidate that's daft enough to lose the deposit. Do I think Mr Latham (UK Independence Party) will take the seat? A very strong possibility with the raise in their party's popularity in both Keighley and Ilkley, not forgetting nationally as well. jimmy k's quote that the Tory vote would be split is a certainty but what he's neglecting is the split in the Labour vote as well as the never voted before vote also are a factor to be aware of. But lets be honest here for a moment we all know that the May elections are a make or brake for all the political party's and a clearer view of the outcome in 2015 would be know then. We know for a fact that if Lib Dems fail to return more than 2 EU seats that Clegg will be gone, we also know that if the Tories get less than 10 that Cameron to would be on very weak ground, as would Miliband should they get less than 30% of the vote with Mr Balls snapping at his heals and lets not forget Mr Farage as well he to is also at risk if they come any lower than second place. So are the 2014 elections important ? Yes very even more so than the 2015 ones I dare say G_Firth

3:07pm Wed 29 Jan 14

jimmy k says...

G_Firth wrote:
jimmy k wrote:
as ive previously said he won't get in next time our friend on here will split the tory vote thereby letting labour in via the backdoor.i dothink its rather funny though hes housing minister responsible for building things,he couldn't manager to put anything in that big hole in bradford when he was in charge there.
I wouldn't be to sure about Labour getting the seat with their career politician candidate they have in place from Selby, plus don't forget that both Labour and Lib Dems think that people are not capable of making up their own minds on matters of national importance.
Do I think Mr Hopkins (Conservative) will return his seat?
No I don't think he will, that is if he is actually going to re-stand for it as there are whispers he's got eyes on the Malton and Pickering seat.
Do I think Labour will take the seat?
Again I don't think he will for the reasons I've already outlined with the added fact that can anyone remember his name without thinking really hard about it.
Do I think the Lib Dems will take the seat?
Erm do they actually have a candidate that's daft enough to lose the deposit.
Do I think Mr Latham (UK Independence Party) will take the seat?
A very strong possibility with the raise in their party's popularity in both Keighley and Ilkley, not forgetting nationally as well.

jimmy k's quote that the Tory vote would be split is a certainty but what he's neglecting is the split in the Labour vote as well as the never voted before vote also are a factor to be aware of.

But lets be honest here for a moment we all know that the May elections are a make or brake for all the political party's and a clearer view of the outcome in 2015 would be know then.

We know for a fact that if Lib Dems fail to return more than 2 EU seats that Clegg will be gone, we also know that if the Tories get less than 10 that Cameron to would be on very weak ground, as would Miliband should they get less than 30% of the vote with Mr Balls snapping at his heals and lets not forget Mr Farage as well he to is also at risk if they come any lower than second place.

So are the 2014 elections important ?
Yes very even more so than the 2015 ones I dare say
if you think ukip have a chance in this or any other seat you really are deluded.the trouble is however we've got to wait till 2015 to find out whos right.
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: as ive previously said he won't get in next time our friend on here will split the tory vote thereby letting labour in via the backdoor.i dothink its rather funny though hes housing minister responsible for building things,he couldn't manager to put anything in that big hole in bradford when he was in charge there.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be to sure about Labour getting the seat with their career politician candidate they have in place from Selby, plus don't forget that both Labour and Lib Dems think that people are not capable of making up their own minds on matters of national importance. Do I think Mr Hopkins (Conservative) will return his seat? No I don't think he will, that is if he is actually going to re-stand for it as there are whispers he's got eyes on the Malton and Pickering seat. Do I think Labour will take the seat? Again I don't think he will for the reasons I've already outlined with the added fact that can anyone remember his name without thinking really hard about it. Do I think the Lib Dems will take the seat? Erm do they actually have a candidate that's daft enough to lose the deposit. Do I think Mr Latham (UK Independence Party) will take the seat? A very strong possibility with the raise in their party's popularity in both Keighley and Ilkley, not forgetting nationally as well. jimmy k's quote that the Tory vote would be split is a certainty but what he's neglecting is the split in the Labour vote as well as the never voted before vote also are a factor to be aware of. But lets be honest here for a moment we all know that the May elections are a make or brake for all the political party's and a clearer view of the outcome in 2015 would be know then. We know for a fact that if Lib Dems fail to return more than 2 EU seats that Clegg will be gone, we also know that if the Tories get less than 10 that Cameron to would be on very weak ground, as would Miliband should they get less than 30% of the vote with Mr Balls snapping at his heals and lets not forget Mr Farage as well he to is also at risk if they come any lower than second place. So are the 2014 elections important ? Yes very even more so than the 2015 ones I dare say[/p][/quote]if you think ukip have a chance in this or any other seat you really are deluded.the trouble is however we've got to wait till 2015 to find out whos right. jimmy k

3:34pm Wed 29 Jan 14

G_Firth says...

There is the rub there are three sectors Realist, Deluded and Denial.
I'm a realist and can understand that the elections in May are make or break for all party's
And my analysis of the standings are as they stand right at this moment, so yes things can change in any direction but at this present time if there was an election tomorrow it would be a two horse race between Labour because of the loyalty vote and UKIP because of the freshness and national popularity vote.
There is the rub there are three sectors Realist, Deluded and Denial. I'm a realist and can understand that the elections in May are make or break for all party's And my analysis of the standings are as they stand right at this moment, so yes things can change in any direction but at this present time if there was an election tomorrow it would be a two horse race between Labour because of the loyalty vote and UKIP because of the freshness and national popularity vote. G_Firth

3:36pm Wed 29 Jan 14

MarkPullen says...

G_Firth wrote:
There is the rub there are three sectors Realist, Deluded and Denial.
I'm a realist and can understand that the elections in May are make or break for all party's
And my analysis of the standings are as they stand right at this moment, so yes things can change in any direction but at this present time if there was an election tomorrow it would be a two horse race between Labour because of the loyalty vote and UKIP because of the freshness and national popularity vote.
But the actual swing to UKIP is surely insurmountable?

It would require a large volume of voters from Labour/Conservative to change allegiance and many vote habitually.
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: There is the rub there are three sectors Realist, Deluded and Denial. I'm a realist and can understand that the elections in May are make or break for all party's And my analysis of the standings are as they stand right at this moment, so yes things can change in any direction but at this present time if there was an election tomorrow it would be a two horse race between Labour because of the loyalty vote and UKIP because of the freshness and national popularity vote.[/p][/quote]But the actual swing to UKIP is surely insurmountable? It would require a large volume of voters from Labour/Conservative to change allegiance and many vote habitually. MarkPullen

3:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Katiery says...

As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good.

I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament.

A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally.
As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good. I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament. A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally. Katiery

4:05pm Wed 29 Jan 14

MarkPullen says...

Katiery wrote:
As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good.

I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament.

A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally.
The best that UKIP can hope for are continual gains in council elections provided they also show a knowledge and interest in local issues.

Nationally there is always a few upsets which tend to be overturned at by-elections.

The parties are slowly coming closer on so many issues that it's often a "better the devil you know" situation.

From what I read on these pages and see in the media I would seriously worry what class of person a vote for UKIP would provide. I know that the media often blow things out of proportion but unless those tasked with encouraging our votes actively, and calmly, engage then it's a case of "no way, Jose".
[quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good. I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament. A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally.[/p][/quote]The best that UKIP can hope for are continual gains in council elections provided they also show a knowledge and interest in local issues. Nationally there is always a few upsets which tend to be overturned at by-elections. The parties are slowly coming closer on so many issues that it's often a "better the devil you know" situation. From what I read on these pages and see in the media I would seriously worry what class of person a vote for UKIP would provide. I know that the media often blow things out of proportion but unless those tasked with encouraging our votes actively, and calmly, engage then it's a case of "no way, Jose". MarkPullen

3:58pm Thu 30 Jan 14

G_Firth says...

MarkPullen wrote:
Katiery wrote:
As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good.

I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament.

A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally.
The best that UKIP can hope for are continual gains in council elections provided they also show a knowledge and interest in local issues.

Nationally there is always a few upsets which tend to be overturned at by-elections.

The parties are slowly coming closer on so many issues that it's often a "better the devil you know" situation.

From what I read on these pages and see in the media I would seriously worry what class of person a vote for UKIP would provide. I know that the media often blow things out of proportion but unless those tasked with encouraging our votes actively, and calmly, engage then it's a case of "no way, Jose".
You might have to ask the aliens from space at Whitby about the Labour vote, but then the Lib Dems are an explosive lot if they don't get their own way but then they are quite liberal with each other, as for the Tory Austrian parties well least said about that the better.

Yes Mr Pullen all parties have their quirks within them but try google "Labour 25" and you'll see more serious things not even hitting the headlines. The media does play a bit part in distorting things.

But as for large swings in votes that has happened so many times its a wonder why parties count them out. because when voting does come around no seat is rock solid till the count has been done, Take Norman Lamont the chancellor at the time who thought he was on a rock solid seat in Harrogate ;)

Complacency in elections often lead to other things
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good. I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament. A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally.[/p][/quote]The best that UKIP can hope for are continual gains in council elections provided they also show a knowledge and interest in local issues. Nationally there is always a few upsets which tend to be overturned at by-elections. The parties are slowly coming closer on so many issues that it's often a "better the devil you know" situation. From what I read on these pages and see in the media I would seriously worry what class of person a vote for UKIP would provide. I know that the media often blow things out of proportion but unless those tasked with encouraging our votes actively, and calmly, engage then it's a case of "no way, Jose".[/p][/quote]You might have to ask the aliens from space at Whitby about the Labour vote, but then the Lib Dems are an explosive lot if they don't get their own way but then they are quite liberal with each other, as for the Tory Austrian parties well least said about that the better. Yes Mr Pullen all parties have their quirks within them but try google "Labour 25" and you'll see more serious things not even hitting the headlines. The media does play a bit part in distorting things. But as for large swings in votes that has happened so many times its a wonder why parties count them out. because when voting does come around no seat is rock solid till the count has been done, Take Norman Lamont the chancellor at the time who thought he was on a rock solid seat in Harrogate ;) Complacency in elections often lead to other things G_Firth

4:04pm Thu 30 Jan 14

MarkPullen says...

G_Firth wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
Katiery wrote:
As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good.

I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament.

A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally.
The best that UKIP can hope for are continual gains in council elections provided they also show a knowledge and interest in local issues.

Nationally there is always a few upsets which tend to be overturned at by-elections.

The parties are slowly coming closer on so many issues that it's often a "better the devil you know" situation.

From what I read on these pages and see in the media I would seriously worry what class of person a vote for UKIP would provide. I know that the media often blow things out of proportion but unless those tasked with encouraging our votes actively, and calmly, engage then it's a case of "no way, Jose".
You might have to ask the aliens from space at Whitby about the Labour vote, but then the Lib Dems are an explosive lot if they don't get their own way but then they are quite liberal with each other, as for the Tory Austrian parties well least said about that the better.

Yes Mr Pullen all parties have their quirks within them but try google "Labour 25" and you'll see more serious things not even hitting the headlines. The media does play a bit part in distorting things.

But as for large swings in votes that has happened so many times its a wonder why parties count them out. because when voting does come around no seat is rock solid till the count has been done, Take Norman Lamont the chancellor at the time who thought he was on a rock solid seat in Harrogate ;)

Complacency in elections often lead to other things
But that's the problem - there might be a change of party that the MP belongs to BUT things don't change!
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: As MarkPullen says, many people vote by habit and the election turnout isn't normally good. I think there will be a small swing to UKIP. People are sick to death of Lab/Lib/Con and some of the 'never before or only on ocassion' voters will probably turn out, but I don't think the swing will be so huge as to return a UKIP parliament. A few M.P.'s maybe. Probably not in Keighley and not enough to make a difference nationally.[/p][/quote]The best that UKIP can hope for are continual gains in council elections provided they also show a knowledge and interest in local issues. Nationally there is always a few upsets which tend to be overturned at by-elections. The parties are slowly coming closer on so many issues that it's often a "better the devil you know" situation. From what I read on these pages and see in the media I would seriously worry what class of person a vote for UKIP would provide. I know that the media often blow things out of proportion but unless those tasked with encouraging our votes actively, and calmly, engage then it's a case of "no way, Jose".[/p][/quote]You might have to ask the aliens from space at Whitby about the Labour vote, but then the Lib Dems are an explosive lot if they don't get their own way but then they are quite liberal with each other, as for the Tory Austrian parties well least said about that the better. Yes Mr Pullen all parties have their quirks within them but try google "Labour 25" and you'll see more serious things not even hitting the headlines. The media does play a bit part in distorting things. But as for large swings in votes that has happened so many times its a wonder why parties count them out. because when voting does come around no seat is rock solid till the count has been done, Take Norman Lamont the chancellor at the time who thought he was on a rock solid seat in Harrogate ;) Complacency in elections often lead to other things[/p][/quote]But that's the problem - there might be a change of party that the MP belongs to BUT things don't change! MarkPullen

5:24pm Thu 30 Jan 14

G_Firth says...

Then it's time things do change for the town of Keighley.
The steady decline in industry, shops and even housing has to stop.
Waiting for the current central government to do something about it won't happen over night if at all unless things change and electing Career politicians will definitely not help matters either in both national and local elections.
Then it's time things do change for the town of Keighley. The steady decline in industry, shops and even housing has to stop. Waiting for the current central government to do something about it won't happen over night if at all unless things change and electing Career politicians will definitely not help matters either in both national and local elections. G_Firth

5:30pm Thu 30 Jan 14

MarkPullen says...

G_Firth wrote:
Then it's time things do change for the town of Keighley.
The steady decline in industry, shops and even housing has to stop.
Waiting for the current central government to do something about it won't happen over night if at all unless things change and electing Career politicians will definitely not help matters either in both national and local elections.
But when the majority of eligible members of the public don't even cast their vote - likely due to apathy - then how can any elected (or co-opted) local politician claim to represent his constituents?

I truly believe in localism with a small "L" - not the pipe dream of the current PM which is mainly created to look like they care.

Unless people feel engaged with their community - commercial, residential, or organisational - then they won't care enough to try to make a difference.

You're totally right, in my personal opinion, that electing career politicians is not the way forward.

One step closer to Westminster is a step away from those you represent.
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: Then it's time things do change for the town of Keighley. The steady decline in industry, shops and even housing has to stop. Waiting for the current central government to do something about it won't happen over night if at all unless things change and electing Career politicians will definitely not help matters either in both national and local elections.[/p][/quote]But when the majority of eligible members of the public don't even cast their vote - likely due to apathy - then how can any elected (or co-opted) local politician claim to represent his constituents? I truly believe in localism with a small "L" - not the pipe dream of the current PM which is mainly created to look like they care. Unless people feel engaged with their community - commercial, residential, or organisational - then they won't care enough to try to make a difference. You're totally right, in my personal opinion, that electing career politicians is not the way forward. One step closer to Westminster is a step away from those you represent. MarkPullen

6:55pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Katiery says...

Nor will electing people who are only chosen because they can afford to pay for their own election, G_Firth.

We need someone who is dedicated to Keighley, not some bored businessman who has decided it is time to jump on the political bandwagon of high income and short hours. The UKIP Parliamentary candidate didn't even know that Keighley was not in central Bradford in one post, which hardly bares well for the needs of Keighley people.
Nor will electing people who are only chosen because they can afford to pay for their own election, G_Firth. We need someone who is dedicated to Keighley, not some bored businessman who has decided it is time to jump on the political bandwagon of high income and short hours. The UKIP Parliamentary candidate didn't even know that Keighley was not in central Bradford in one post, which hardly bares well for the needs of Keighley people. Katiery

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