Keighley's would-be Labour MP voices concerns over ambulance response times

John Grogan

John Grogan

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KEIGHLEY'S would-be Labour MP has voiced alarm at increased ambulance response times in the region.

Figures show that the average wait for an emergency ambulance in Yorkshire and Humber has risen in the past year from 314.4 to 414.6 seconds.

John Grogan, Labour's prospective parliamentary candidate for Keighley, said the NHS statistics raised "real concerns" that lives were being put at risk.

He added: "Our region has seen one of the highest increases in response times in the country.

“For people who've suffered cardiac arrest or a stroke, every second counts and that is why this slump in standards cannot continue.

"Urgent action is needed from the government to turn things around."

Ian Brandwood, executive director of human resources with the Yorkshire ambulance trust, admitted it had been a challenging start to the year.

“This has been compounded by a significant increase of up to 19 per cent in demand to respond to the most seriously ill and injured patients – an increase which is also being seen across the country," he said.

“Reaching patients as quickly as possible and providing high quality clinical care remains our priority and we would like to reassure the public that we are working hard to address the challenges we are currently facing and make improvements to our response times. This includes discussions with our staff and Unison representatives."

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8:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jimmy k says...

the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may.
the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may. jimmy k
  • Score: -3

12:04am Sun 27 Jul 14

G_Firth says...

jimmy k wrote:
the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may.
Why waste your vote or even make it but just a whisper.
If you really want change make it roar and vote for change.
Just ask yourselves this question why does this paper only ever report the stories from either the Labour party or the Conservatives.
What about the Greens, the Lib Dems, or even UKIP.
The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position.

But to the main story they only have themselves to blame with all the cuts that are putting a strain on all the emergency services and yes Mr Grogan needs to really think before he speaks as Labour kick started all of this in the first place.
They depleted all of the countries cash with massive overspend and should they get back in they will do it again but where is that money going to come from, as they can only take so much from the bankers.
Well from all of the analysis all signs indicate they will have absolutely no choice but to cut pensions. And the Tory's already know this why the hell do you think they have released pensions in the way they have for people to spend it how they wish before Labour gets their grubby little hands on it.
[quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may.[/p][/quote]Why waste your vote or even make it but just a whisper. If you really want change make it roar and vote for change. Just ask yourselves this question why does this paper only ever report the stories from either the Labour party or the Conservatives. What about the Greens, the Lib Dems, or even UKIP. The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position. But to the main story they only have themselves to blame with all the cuts that are putting a strain on all the emergency services and yes Mr Grogan needs to really think before he speaks as Labour kick started all of this in the first place. They depleted all of the countries cash with massive overspend and should they get back in they will do it again but where is that money going to come from, as they can only take so much from the bankers. Well from all of the analysis all signs indicate they will have absolutely no choice but to cut pensions. And the Tory's already know this why the hell do you think they have released pensions in the way they have for people to spend it how they wish before Labour gets their grubby little hands on it. G_Firth
  • Score: -5

8:43am Mon 28 Jul 14

MarkPullen says...

G_Firth wrote:
jimmy k wrote:
the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may.
Why waste your vote or even make it but just a whisper.
If you really want change make it roar and vote for change.
Just ask yourselves this question why does this paper only ever report the stories from either the Labour party or the Conservatives.
What about the Greens, the Lib Dems, or even UKIP.
The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position.

But to the main story they only have themselves to blame with all the cuts that are putting a strain on all the emergency services and yes Mr Grogan needs to really think before he speaks as Labour kick started all of this in the first place.
They depleted all of the countries cash with massive overspend and should they get back in they will do it again but where is that money going to come from, as they can only take so much from the bankers.
Well from all of the analysis all signs indicate they will have absolutely no choice but to cut pensions. And the Tory's already know this why the hell do you think they have released pensions in the way they have for people to spend it how they wish before Labour gets their grubby little hands on it.
So are you saying that Paul Latham (aka pjl20) the PPC for Ukip for the constituency of Keighley & Ilkley is likely to offer a credible alternative even after taking into account his showing at the district elections in May?

He's been noticeably absent since May on these pages which seems to indicate that he's yet to refocus his attentions to Keighley.

Whilst I agree that Mr Grogan does seem to be making use of all media opportunities, Mr Latham was also a master at this but at the moment he's missing his chances.

Unless of course Mr Latham is unlikely to be retained as the PPC?
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may.[/p][/quote]Why waste your vote or even make it but just a whisper. If you really want change make it roar and vote for change. Just ask yourselves this question why does this paper only ever report the stories from either the Labour party or the Conservatives. What about the Greens, the Lib Dems, or even UKIP. The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position. But to the main story they only have themselves to blame with all the cuts that are putting a strain on all the emergency services and yes Mr Grogan needs to really think before he speaks as Labour kick started all of this in the first place. They depleted all of the countries cash with massive overspend and should they get back in they will do it again but where is that money going to come from, as they can only take so much from the bankers. Well from all of the analysis all signs indicate they will have absolutely no choice but to cut pensions. And the Tory's already know this why the hell do you think they have released pensions in the way they have for people to spend it how they wish before Labour gets their grubby little hands on it.[/p][/quote]So are you saying that Paul Latham (aka pjl20) the PPC for Ukip for the constituency of Keighley & Ilkley is likely to offer a credible alternative even after taking into account his showing at the district elections in May? He's been noticeably absent since May on these pages which seems to indicate that he's yet to refocus his attentions to Keighley. Whilst I agree that Mr Grogan does seem to be making use of all media opportunities, Mr Latham was also a master at this but at the moment he's missing his chances. Unless of course Mr Latham is unlikely to be retained as the PPC? MarkPullen
  • Score: -3

7:00pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Little Green Man says...

G_Firth wrote:
jimmy k wrote:
the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may.
Why waste your vote or even make it but just a whisper.
If you really want change make it roar and vote for change.
Just ask yourselves this question why does this paper only ever report the stories from either the Labour party or the Conservatives.
What about the Greens, the Lib Dems, or even UKIP.
The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position.

But to the main story they only have themselves to blame with all the cuts that are putting a strain on all the emergency services and yes Mr Grogan needs to really think before he speaks as Labour kick started all of this in the first place.
They depleted all of the countries cash with massive overspend and should they get back in they will do it again but where is that money going to come from, as they can only take so much from the bankers.
Well from all of the analysis all signs indicate they will have absolutely no choice but to cut pensions. And the Tory's already know this why the hell do you think they have released pensions in the way they have for people to spend it how they wish before Labour gets their grubby little hands on it.
The last five general elections have put Labour and Conservative way ahead of every other party with greater than 70% of the vote between them, I'm not sure where you get your particular three horse race from - daydreaming perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: the grinning idiots at it again,jumping on another bandwagon think it's going to be none of the above come may.[/p][/quote]Why waste your vote or even make it but just a whisper. If you really want change make it roar and vote for change. Just ask yourselves this question why does this paper only ever report the stories from either the Labour party or the Conservatives. What about the Greens, the Lib Dems, or even UKIP. The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position. But to the main story they only have themselves to blame with all the cuts that are putting a strain on all the emergency services and yes Mr Grogan needs to really think before he speaks as Labour kick started all of this in the first place. They depleted all of the countries cash with massive overspend and should they get back in they will do it again but where is that money going to come from, as they can only take so much from the bankers. Well from all of the analysis all signs indicate they will have absolutely no choice but to cut pensions. And the Tory's already know this why the hell do you think they have released pensions in the way they have for people to spend it how they wish before Labour gets their grubby little hands on it.[/p][/quote]The last five general elections have put Labour and Conservative way ahead of every other party with greater than 70% of the vote between them, I'm not sure where you get your particular three horse race from - daydreaming perhaps? Little Green Man
  • Score: 1

8:40pm Mon 28 Jul 14

jimmy k says...

as ive said many times if ukip had a credible candidate here it would merely split the tory vote and put labour in via the back door,however only going by pljs comments on here don't think that'll be a problem.
as ive said many times if ukip had a credible candidate here it would merely split the tory vote and put labour in via the back door,however only going by pljs comments on here don't think that'll be a problem. jimmy k
  • Score: -2

8:23am Thu 31 Jul 14

G_Firth says...

jimmy k wrote:
as ive said many times if ukip had a credible candidate here it would merely split the tory vote and put labour in via the back door,however only going by pljs comments on here don't think that'll be a problem.
Really jimmy k
I wonder if Mr Grogan would like to comment on Labour's Death Tax plans that will have no base level, as in no matter whom you are be you rich or as poor as a church mouse you will be accountable to it.
Or what about Labour's plans to hand full powers over to the EU once they get in, as well as cutting state pensions, selling off the NHS, Taxing private schools, taxing charities even more, closing the door fully on the rest of the globe to immigration/migratio
n while still having an open door to the EU.
What about the 950m they signed us up to to pay Rumania to upgrade their rail network, or even the handing over of our veto to the EU.
There is a whole load of things on the list that can go on and on.
The 2015 General election is a lot more about what you want for your country as a whole than individual needs.
The GE15 is the referendum simple as that, Vote Lib/Lab/Con/Green if you want to stay in the EU because the Con's are simply conning you with their promise of a referendum as they know they will need the EU's backing of all 27 other nations to allow one to take place, and that is a fact after November because of the wording in the wonderful Lisbon treaty that Labour signed us up to.
The only way out of the EU after November is to instigate section 50 of it.
[quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: as ive said many times if ukip had a credible candidate here it would merely split the tory vote and put labour in via the back door,however only going by pljs comments on here don't think that'll be a problem.[/p][/quote]Really jimmy k I wonder if Mr Grogan would like to comment on Labour's Death Tax plans that will have no base level, as in no matter whom you are be you rich or as poor as a church mouse you will be accountable to it. Or what about Labour's plans to hand full powers over to the EU once they get in, as well as cutting state pensions, selling off the NHS, Taxing private schools, taxing charities even more, closing the door fully on the rest of the globe to immigration/migratio n while still having an open door to the EU. What about the 950m they signed us up to to pay Rumania to upgrade their rail network, or even the handing over of our veto to the EU. There is a whole load of things on the list that can go on and on. The 2015 General election is a lot more about what you want for your country as a whole than individual needs. The GE15 is the referendum simple as that, Vote Lib/Lab/Con/Green if you want to stay in the EU because the Con's are simply conning you with their promise of a referendum as they know they will need the EU's backing of all 27 other nations to allow one to take place, and that is a fact after November because of the wording in the wonderful Lisbon treaty that Labour signed us up to. The only way out of the EU after November is to instigate section 50 of it. G_Firth
  • Score: -4

8:28am Thu 31 Jul 14

G_Firth says...

BTW here is a link about the Death Tax:
http://www.express.c
o.uk/news/politics/4
93882/OUTRAGE-Labour
-propose-15-death-ta
x
BTW here is a link about the Death Tax: http://www.express.c o.uk/news/politics/4 93882/OUTRAGE-Labour -propose-15-death-ta x G_Firth
  • Score: 0

8:28am Thu 31 Jul 14

MarkPullen says...

G_Firth wrote:
jimmy k wrote:
as ive said many times if ukip had a credible candidate here it would merely split the tory vote and put labour in via the back door,however only going by pljs comments on here don't think that'll be a problem.
Really jimmy k
I wonder if Mr Grogan would like to comment on Labour's Death Tax plans that will have no base level, as in no matter whom you are be you rich or as poor as a church mouse you will be accountable to it.
Or what about Labour's plans to hand full powers over to the EU once they get in, as well as cutting state pensions, selling off the NHS, Taxing private schools, taxing charities even more, closing the door fully on the rest of the globe to immigration/migratio

n while still having an open door to the EU.
What about the 950m they signed us up to to pay Rumania to upgrade their rail network, or even the handing over of our veto to the EU.
There is a whole load of things on the list that can go on and on.
The 2015 General election is a lot more about what you want for your country as a whole than individual needs.
The GE15 is the referendum simple as that, Vote Lib/Lab/Con/Green if you want to stay in the EU because the Con's are simply conning you with their promise of a referendum as they know they will need the EU's backing of all 27 other nations to allow one to take place, and that is a fact after November because of the wording in the wonderful Lisbon treaty that Labour signed us up to.
The only way out of the EU after November is to instigate section 50 of it.
So, G-Firth, when can we expect Paul Latham (pjl20) to return to these pages as the PPC for Ukip to put forward the case for his party as part of the build up to GE2015?

I'm also confused by your referral to the "Death Tax" proposed by Labour - I checked their website and could find a policy by this title and yet you've given in a high profile by capitalising it's name - maybe you are trying to capitalise the publicity?
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy k[/bold] wrote: as ive said many times if ukip had a credible candidate here it would merely split the tory vote and put labour in via the back door,however only going by pljs comments on here don't think that'll be a problem.[/p][/quote]Really jimmy k I wonder if Mr Grogan would like to comment on Labour's Death Tax plans that will have no base level, as in no matter whom you are be you rich or as poor as a church mouse you will be accountable to it. Or what about Labour's plans to hand full powers over to the EU once they get in, as well as cutting state pensions, selling off the NHS, Taxing private schools, taxing charities even more, closing the door fully on the rest of the globe to immigration/migratio n while still having an open door to the EU. What about the 950m they signed us up to to pay Rumania to upgrade their rail network, or even the handing over of our veto to the EU. There is a whole load of things on the list that can go on and on. The 2015 General election is a lot more about what you want for your country as a whole than individual needs. The GE15 is the referendum simple as that, Vote Lib/Lab/Con/Green if you want to stay in the EU because the Con's are simply conning you with their promise of a referendum as they know they will need the EU's backing of all 27 other nations to allow one to take place, and that is a fact after November because of the wording in the wonderful Lisbon treaty that Labour signed us up to. The only way out of the EU after November is to instigate section 50 of it.[/p][/quote]So, G-Firth, when can we expect Paul Latham (pjl20) to return to these pages as the PPC for Ukip to put forward the case for his party as part of the build up to GE2015? I'm also confused by your referral to the "Death Tax" proposed by Labour - I checked their website and could find a policy by this title and yet you've given in a high profile by capitalising it's name - maybe you are trying to capitalise the publicity? MarkPullen
  • Score: -3

8:37am Thu 31 Jul 14

MarkPullen says...

So when it comes to national issues Ukip are relying of Cllr George Firth to fight their corner with, as usual, the normal attempts to use headline grabbing rhetoric.

He seems to want to make every local issue one with a national edge - surely the electorate in his ward are more concerned about their neighbourhood and his actions locally?

After claiming "The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position." he neglects to acknowledge that the horsey bearing the Ukip colours was lame at the BMDC elections in May and is likely to be put down before it even reaches the starting gate.

C'mon George, surely for Ukip to stand a chance they need to be putting their money on a horse that has the ability to run in a straight line without leaping the course fence and heading at the spectators whilst foaming at the mouth.
So when it comes to national issues Ukip are relying of Cllr George Firth to fight their corner with, as usual, the normal attempts to use headline grabbing rhetoric. He seems to want to make every local issue one with a national edge - surely the electorate in his ward are more concerned about their neighbourhood and his actions locally? After claiming "The Ilkley and Keighley constituency is a marginal seat even more so now if you do the numbers from last May's district election where its a very close three horse race with the big two not even been in pole position." he neglects to acknowledge that the horsey bearing the Ukip colours was lame at the BMDC elections in May and is likely to be put down before it even reaches the starting gate. C'mon George, surely for Ukip to stand a chance they need to be putting their money on a horse that has the ability to run in a straight line without leaping the course fence and heading at the spectators whilst foaming at the mouth. MarkPullen
  • Score: -3

11:36am Thu 31 Jul 14

G_Firth says...

Typical Mr Pullen response, attack the person rather than confront the issues because he has no answers to them.
BTW
Keighley west won
Worth Valley second to Con (Still under investigation)
Keighley East second to Lab
Keighley Central very close third
Ilkley forth
Craven no candidate
In all the other BDMC seats UKIP contested they took on average 31% of the vote coming second in over 7 of them.
For 2015 every seat in Keighley, Ilkley, Worth and Craven will be contested and selection is already in process for the candidates with some already selected.
Why have we taken a back seat at the moment?
Answer to that is quite simple our manifesto comes out on the 26th Sep and then you will see what we stand for and how legitimate our case is, as there is a little thing of the Scottish referendum that could put everything on its head nationally.
A little point the other parties are forgetting to note that the Scottish are very nationalistic and in my own opinion when push comes to shove they will vote with national pride before practicality, so my money is on that the yes vote will win out there.
But I digress as there are so many aspects when speaking about national issues until the manifesto comes out you will have to wait and see.
Typical Mr Pullen response, attack the person rather than confront the issues because he has no answers to them. BTW Keighley west won Worth Valley second to Con (Still under investigation) Keighley East second to Lab Keighley Central very close third Ilkley forth Craven no candidate In all the other BDMC seats UKIP contested they took on average 31% of the vote coming second in over 7 of them. For 2015 every seat in Keighley, Ilkley, Worth and Craven will be contested and selection is already in process for the candidates with some already selected. Why have we taken a back seat at the moment? Answer to that is quite simple our manifesto comes out on the 26th Sep and then you will see what we stand for and how legitimate our case is, as there is a little thing of the Scottish referendum that could put everything on its head nationally. A little point the other parties are forgetting to note that the Scottish are very nationalistic and in my own opinion when push comes to shove they will vote with national pride before practicality, so my money is on that the yes vote will win out there. But I digress as there are so many aspects when speaking about national issues until the manifesto comes out you will have to wait and see. G_Firth
  • Score: -1

11:44am Thu 31 Jul 14

MarkPullen says...

G_Firth wrote:
Typical Mr Pullen response, attack the person rather than confront the issues because he has no answers to them.
BTW
Keighley west won
Worth Valley second to Con (Still under investigation)
Keighley East second to Lab
Keighley Central very close third
Ilkley forth
Craven no candidate
In all the other BDMC seats UKIP contested they took on average 31% of the vote coming second in over 7 of them.
For 2015 every seat in Keighley, Ilkley, Worth and Craven will be contested and selection is already in process for the candidates with some already selected.
Why have we taken a back seat at the moment?
Answer to that is quite simple our manifesto comes out on the 26th Sep and then you will see what we stand for and how legitimate our case is, as there is a little thing of the Scottish referendum that could put everything on its head nationally.
A little point the other parties are forgetting to note that the Scottish are very nationalistic and in my own opinion when push comes to shove they will vote with national pride before practicality, so my money is on that the yes vote will win out there.
But I digress as there are so many aspects when speaking about national issues until the manifesto comes out you will have to wait and see.
Typical George Firth only supplying the data he wants to reveal!

You seem to neglect to reveal that the PPC for Keighley & Ilkley polled extremely low in the BMDC election and no doubt reduced the average vote you quoted.

As for taking a back seat - you seem to be prolific in spouting on FB (though less since others tore you apart) and on the KN pages. It's pjl20 who's hiding under his rockery after the bruising he received when only his extended family took the time to vote for him.

I'm eager to witness first hand on these pages the time when you discuss the local issues of your ward rather than twist national agendas and spend your keyboard time putting down the other councillors or PPC.

Is this another typical Mr Pullen (please call me Mark - we're all friends on here) attack?
The comment from you is kinda strange when I've yet to witness anything positive in your posts and even less in newsprint in the KN.

C'mon George, time to try and make headlines rather than hijack them?
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: Typical Mr Pullen response, attack the person rather than confront the issues because he has no answers to them. BTW Keighley west won Worth Valley second to Con (Still under investigation) Keighley East second to Lab Keighley Central very close third Ilkley forth Craven no candidate In all the other BDMC seats UKIP contested they took on average 31% of the vote coming second in over 7 of them. For 2015 every seat in Keighley, Ilkley, Worth and Craven will be contested and selection is already in process for the candidates with some already selected. Why have we taken a back seat at the moment? Answer to that is quite simple our manifesto comes out on the 26th Sep and then you will see what we stand for and how legitimate our case is, as there is a little thing of the Scottish referendum that could put everything on its head nationally. A little point the other parties are forgetting to note that the Scottish are very nationalistic and in my own opinion when push comes to shove they will vote with national pride before practicality, so my money is on that the yes vote will win out there. But I digress as there are so many aspects when speaking about national issues until the manifesto comes out you will have to wait and see.[/p][/quote]Typical George Firth only supplying the data he wants to reveal! You seem to neglect to reveal that the PPC for Keighley & Ilkley polled extremely low in the BMDC election and no doubt reduced the average vote you quoted. As for taking a back seat - you seem to be prolific in spouting on FB (though less since others tore you apart) and on the KN pages. It's pjl20 who's hiding under his rockery after the bruising he received when only his extended family took the time to vote for him. I'm eager to witness first hand on these pages the time when you discuss the local issues of your ward rather than twist national agendas and spend your keyboard time putting down the other councillors or PPC. Is this another typical Mr Pullen (please call me Mark - we're all friends on here) attack? The comment from you is kinda strange when I've yet to witness anything positive in your posts and even less in newsprint in the KN. C'mon George, time to try and make headlines rather than hijack them? MarkPullen
  • Score: -3

11:51am Thu 31 Jul 14

MarkPullen says...

By the way George, as per your normal problem on FB you've neglected to include the truth in a post!

The results of the Ilkley election back in May shows the Ukip candidate Paul Latham / pjl20 coming 5th and not 4th.


Gibbons, Michael Peter
Conservative - 2705

MacPherson, Alexander James
Labour - 1303

Ford, Brian Richard
Green Party - 508

Ferguson, Peter Alan
Liberal Democrats - 359

Latham, Paul John
UK Independence Party - 348

Even Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party are likely to trounce Ukip next May based on the success of Mr Latham!

Looking forward to seeing if you've got the courage to post back on Keighley Forum in the near future - though a word of advice ..... try and provide evidence to back up your facts!
By the way George, as per your normal problem on FB you've neglected to include the truth in a post! The results of the Ilkley election back in May shows the Ukip candidate Paul Latham / pjl20 coming 5th and not 4th. Gibbons, Michael Peter Conservative - 2705 MacPherson, Alexander James Labour - 1303 Ford, Brian Richard Green Party - 508 Ferguson, Peter Alan Liberal Democrats - 359 Latham, Paul John UK Independence Party - 348 Even Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party are likely to trounce Ukip next May based on the success of Mr Latham! Looking forward to seeing if you've got the courage to post back on Keighley Forum in the near future - though a word of advice ..... try and provide evidence to back up your facts! MarkPullen
  • Score: -5

4:45pm Thu 31 Jul 14

G_Firth says...

Apologies I forgot the Liberal Democrats had a candidate running in Ilkley just like you seemed to have forgot that Mayor Gibbons as he is now known as also only won by such a margin because in winning Ilkley would have the Mayor-ship as was his rotation for the role in winning.
As for being national the situation over the Ambulance service is based on the problems nationally.
like a very old saying the beat of a butterflies wings in one part can cause a tornado in another, the meaning of which is very simple the actions of one area can have adverse effects on another, without being directly linked to it.
Apologies I forgot the Liberal Democrats had a candidate running in Ilkley just like you seemed to have forgot that Mayor Gibbons as he is now known as also only won by such a margin because in winning Ilkley would have the Mayor-ship as was his rotation for the role in winning. As for being national the situation over the Ambulance service is based on the problems nationally. like a very old saying the beat of a butterflies wings in one part can cause a tornado in another, the meaning of which is very simple the actions of one area can have adverse effects on another, without being directly linked to it. G_Firth
  • Score: 0

4:47pm Thu 31 Jul 14

MarkPullen says...

G_Firth wrote:
Apologies I forgot the Liberal Democrats had a candidate running in Ilkley just like you seemed to have forgot that Mayor Gibbons as he is now known as also only won by such a margin because in winning Ilkley would have the Mayor-ship as was his rotation for the role in winning.
As for being national the situation over the Ambulance service is based on the problems nationally.
like a very old saying the beat of a butterflies wings in one part can cause a tornado in another, the meaning of which is very simple the actions of one area can have adverse effects on another, without being directly linked to it.
Though on FB you keep getting your little wings well and truly clipped George.

Hopefulyl you'll continue to persevere beat that drum of yours.
[quote][p][bold]G_Firth[/bold] wrote: Apologies I forgot the Liberal Democrats had a candidate running in Ilkley just like you seemed to have forgot that Mayor Gibbons as he is now known as also only won by such a margin because in winning Ilkley would have the Mayor-ship as was his rotation for the role in winning. As for being national the situation over the Ambulance service is based on the problems nationally. like a very old saying the beat of a butterflies wings in one part can cause a tornado in another, the meaning of which is very simple the actions of one area can have adverse effects on another, without being directly linked to it.[/p][/quote]Though on FB you keep getting your little wings well and truly clipped George. Hopefulyl you'll continue to persevere beat that drum of yours. MarkPullen
  • Score: -2

10:51am Fri 1 Aug 14

Ian-Holt Roberts says...

MarkPullen wrote:
By the way George, as per your normal problem on FB you've neglected to include the truth in a post!

The results of the Ilkley election back in May shows the Ukip candidate Paul Latham / pjl20 coming 5th and not 4th.


Gibbons, Michael Peter
Conservative - 2705

MacPherson, Alexander James
Labour - 1303

Ford, Brian Richard
Green Party - 508

Ferguson, Peter Alan
Liberal Democrats - 359

Latham, Paul John
UK Independence Party - 348

Even Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party are likely to trounce Ukip next May based on the success of Mr Latham!

Looking forward to seeing if you've got the courage to post back on Keighley Forum in the near future - though a word of advice ..... try and provide evidence to back up your facts!
Mark you can not be serious ,Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party to trounce Ukip Leo is a nice lad ,end of story,
[quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: By the way George, as per your normal problem on FB you've neglected to include the truth in a post! The results of the Ilkley election back in May shows the Ukip candidate Paul Latham / pjl20 coming 5th and not 4th. Gibbons, Michael Peter Conservative - 2705 MacPherson, Alexander James Labour - 1303 Ford, Brian Richard Green Party - 508 Ferguson, Peter Alan Liberal Democrats - 359 Latham, Paul John UK Independence Party - 348 Even Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party are likely to trounce Ukip next May based on the success of Mr Latham! Looking forward to seeing if you've got the courage to post back on Keighley Forum in the near future - though a word of advice ..... try and provide evidence to back up your facts![/p][/quote]Mark you can not be serious ,Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party to trounce Ukip Leo is a nice lad ,end of story, Ian-Holt Roberts
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12:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MarkPullen says...

Ian-Holt Roberts wrote:
MarkPullen wrote:
By the way George, as per your normal problem on FB you've neglected to include the truth in a post!

The results of the Ilkley election back in May shows the Ukip candidate Paul Latham / pjl20 coming 5th and not 4th.


Gibbons, Michael Peter
Conservative - 2705

MacPherson, Alexander James
Labour - 1303

Ford, Brian Richard
Green Party - 508

Ferguson, Peter Alan
Liberal Democrats - 359

Latham, Paul John
UK Independence Party - 348

Even Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party are likely to trounce Ukip next May based on the success of Mr Latham!

Looking forward to seeing if you've got the courage to post back on Keighley Forum in the near future - though a word of advice ..... try and provide evidence to back up your facts!
Mark you can not be serious ,Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party to trounce Ukip Leo is a nice lad ,end of story,
That's what I said Ian - based on the failure of Ukip in the BMDC elections for Ilkley I doubt very much that Paul Latham will be a threat to even the smallest party in Keighley.
[quote][p][bold]Ian-Holt Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkPullen[/bold] wrote: By the way George, as per your normal problem on FB you've neglected to include the truth in a post! The results of the Ilkley election back in May shows the Ukip candidate Paul Latham / pjl20 coming 5th and not 4th. Gibbons, Michael Peter Conservative - 2705 MacPherson, Alexander James Labour - 1303 Ford, Brian Richard Green Party - 508 Ferguson, Peter Alan Liberal Democrats - 359 Latham, Paul John UK Independence Party - 348 Even Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party are likely to trounce Ukip next May based on the success of Mr Latham! Looking forward to seeing if you've got the courage to post back on Keighley Forum in the near future - though a word of advice ..... try and provide evidence to back up your facts![/p][/quote]Mark you can not be serious ,Leo and his Yorkshire Tea Party to trounce Ukip Leo is a nice lad ,end of story,[/p][/quote]That's what I said Ian - based on the failure of Ukip in the BMDC elections for Ilkley I doubt very much that Paul Latham will be a threat to even the smallest party in Keighley. MarkPullen
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